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Jul 10 2011 07:22pm
Quote (UndeadGad @ Jul 10 2011 10:40am)
atm prolly 6 or 7 because havent been playing serious lately
but if i'd get into hard practice for a week or two probably 8 or 9


ofc rating yourself is biased.

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Jul 10 2011 07:32pm
Quote (tOFFELiKastrullen @ Jul 10 2011 02:22am)
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MSI = 1 + 3 + 5 + 5 + 8 = 22 (Average skill level, 4,4)
SK = 1 + 4 + 7  + 9 + 10 = 31 (Average skill level 6,2)

Dam, MSI got some huge team play to make up for their lack of individual skills.



you missed Yoda btw
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Jul 10 2011 07:32pm
Quote (Odds @ Jul 10 2011 09:32pm)
you missed Yoda btw


negative 10
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Jul 10 2011 07:43pm
Quote (UndeadGad @ Jul 9 2011 03:30pm)
ranked 1-10 1 is worst 10 is best
haters are welcome and so are fanboys




0 ( these i have no opinion about because i've i dont rly know who they are ) twiSta Fogged Tatsuya01 k1 waytosexy Zekent AeiOwnedU  Sender Mo Kiwikid dirgesnoopy getcarried TTwka iskaputski ninjaboogie justawluts dilatedmind KnottyRotty Blewd Tomkiss IWasLike PQLLLLE RottePER Yakami TeHGosu_



1 these should just quit the fucking game because they're so fucking bad
FreshPro freshthrow do i need to say more?
Cardinal the freshthrow of old SK
Bdiz freshthrow of current sk / old sk / eg
YoDa how many heroes have he played which he havent sucked on? mq like 1 or 2 games and all the other games he fail because he is shit
AMXzaku chipper do i need to say more?
JAH_ i've seen him play a strong game once, all the other games he have been just sucking dixes
nooblike no words
Newb1k no words
Leen like 0-100 hellbringer on solo lane?
Pillows not only is he bad but this kid actually said to me one game "lol i make money of this game i'm better than you" okay so he won a tournament with a 50$ first price and he have been playing this game for probably over 1 year and bragging about it like somebody gives a fuck LOL
iskill another swedish scrub
kay` wow this guy is bad i have no words, not only is he bad but he jumps from team to team like a fucking whore
papa`srdl  HAHAHA my friends and i have a little inside joke where we just say srdl and everyone starts to cry thats how bad he is
Rexi just awful
henryD or as we call him SlitherD
swindlemelonzz talanted like swindlemelonzz
Scorp121 kid is just bad
ShylaStylez` kid is just bad
thefirst` kid is just bad
shantropa kid is just bad
HHH kid is just bad
black well losing mid silu vs doctor i mean fucking really?



2 these are bad but compared to the dumpsters at 1 these guys are fucking pro
Overpow going from playing solo lane/trihard ricer to playing a hammerstorm every game tells me that he cant do more other than use 1 spell then a click
Mag1X as supporter i would actually give him a 4 but since he is running around trying to carry imma give him a 2, last time i watched him he was playing some flint with like alchemist and shrunken head and acting like flint is a melee hero running straight in and lose the game
Dodo can pretty much only play hb but since this is more of an overall rating i'm just putting him on 2
`PokeDex the few games i've seen him he was poo poo
Sn3yking never seen this kid do good, but putting him in the same pile of shit as yoda and those baddies that would be too crule
uniQFazer same as above
Amingo same as above
JerAx same as above
hyddae same as above
Brodholm same as above
eresloco same as above
Hmmpz same as above
Soender same as above




3 not that good but they dont deserve being put with those in 1 and 2
Fly he just plays decent every game, never good sometimes bad he is quite good at drafting but this have nothing to do with draftin
SemiJew pretty much a notail wannabe
Tralfamadore nottin to say
CaptainBoner if this is who i think it is he plays a decent magmus and thats about it
XoYnoZnU aint got much to say
Drayich aint got much to say
stangby if he sticks to his gladi/flint and rice entire game i could maybe put him on 4 or 5 but now he have started to play solo heroes and he is shit at it
Louie` meh
Revyy meh



4 these kids can do good
Testie i mean he is not as bad as people say he is
Riser_ from playing decent solo to playing a decent support
brized meh
astonl he is like this 45% he plays decent 50% he plays bad 5% he plays rly good
Era first i always though this kid was bad and belong where freshthrow and those nerds are but after watching a few matches from dh he did play quite decent on the matches i saw
Away` pretty decent support
giftig if it wouldnt been for his obsessive valk i would probably put him on 5 or maybe even 6 because his valk is shit even though he plays it 24/7
Ensoe if this is who i think it is he is quite decent
JoshP havent seen this guy lately but from what i saw back in the days he wasnt that good


5 these are decent i mean they are not that good but they are defently not bad
Notail yes he actually aint that bad as i might have tried to make it sound but the point i'm trying to make is he is relying on nova_ too much when he mid, and not to mention bottlewhore like a pussy
Trixi he can take over games but it's mainly because either msi will make sure he freefarms or enemy team ignores him and in most cases it result in freefarm and he knows how to actually do something with farm
jojoflow i think this is the guy who usually play repluxor for dbsk and he is pretty good imo
Mr.Swish i'd probably give him 6 or 7 if it wasnt for the first time i saw him he went codex 5 hag and threw the game
Buch fairly good

6 underrated
Nishkea when he did play he was pretty consistent all though his team always put him on support role even though hiss carry potencial was much greater than his teammates

7 these guy deserve a bit more credit especially slickz
Korok he is pretty good and that people shittalk him after he lost mid to notail coz they are msi fanboys is just stupid, "wow you lost bubles to silu" yes is there something wrong losing when you got hero disadvantage
sLiCKz his bubbles and ss is pretty impressive consider this guy plays on like 250+ ping constantly

8 they're pretty good
NoVa_ imo msi best player
Akke  he is pretty consistent doing a great job warding
Tarano well he can rice and play support, i mean there are better carry players than him and there are better support players than him but he can do both at a fairly high level

9 these are good but not good enough to be the best xD
se`busca got a wicked magmus and is a pretty sweet carry player
bkid it's not really a surprise most players from load is in place 9-10 because A i was/is a load fanboy and B their individual skill is quite high
and i feel in love with bkids behemoth first time i saw it and he also got a sweetass magmus and his ss/sb is pretty good, or maybe i should say "was"

10 these are my favorite players in hon
chu first competitve game i saw this kid was just pwning people and making it look like a pubstomp and well he is chu what more do i need to say
H4nn1- lately hanni might not been as good as he used to be but he is really consistent he can play pretty much ALL heroes on top level, and actually i did think in dota he was really bad but once i started with hon and saw him play i noticed i must have missjudged him
FujiApples fuji is just awesome really versetile player and as far as supporting goes he does a really good job and now a days he have been playing a bit solo lane and he have been doing quite good playing heroes pretty much noone plays, chipper mid ( not seen so often these days ) tundra mid this we never see


think its a pretty decent scale, but i think you got like a personal hate on msi. since they are the best team. not by far but the only teams i see as matching up aginst msi would be eg/ok ok have done really well atm. the thing i agree most on is fuji. his proberbly the most solid player in the whole game.
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Jul 10 2011 07:46pm
guys id rather have competitive potatoes..come on now??
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Jul 10 2011 07:51pm
Id bump up swish and notail for sure, rexi is not that bad don't grudge him.

Korok is just sick every now and then so ya I'd move him up a slot or two also.
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Jul 11 2011 12:34am
Quote (xDooMx @ 11 Jul 2011 02:51)
Id bump up swish and notail for sure, rexi is not that bad don't grudge him.

Korok is just sick every now and then so ya I'd move him up a slot or two also.


as i said, if i wouldn't seen the codex 5 hag game swish tossed he probably get up 1 or 2 ranks
and notail he is depending too much on nova
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Jul 11 2011 01:48am
Quote (UndeadGad @ Jul 10 2011 11:34pm)
as i said, if i wouldn't seen the codex 5 hag game swish tossed he probably get up 1 or 2 ranks
and notail he is depending too much on nova


How so? I think his sil game where he got ganked and started I think it was 1-6 and ended up carrying hard proved even without his killer support hes a pretty good player. He's just such a dominate mid, he actually makes polly auto banned, who does that?
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Jul 11 2011 02:12am
Quote (xDooMx @ 11 Jul 2011 08:48)
How so? I think his sil game where he got ganked and started I think it was 1-6 and ended up carrying hard proved even without his killer support hes a pretty good player. He's just such a dominate mid, he actually makes polly auto banned, who does that?


Quote (xDooMx @ 11 Jul 2011 08:48)
How so? I think his sil game where he got ganked and started I think it was 1-6 and ended up carrying hard proved even without his killer support hes a pretty good player. He's just such a dominate mid, he actually makes polly auto banned, who does that?


pretty much all good mid players will result in teams banning a hero he plays good



chu people banned ss / hag against and even pebbles
scandal people banned ss
etz

people ban heroes certain players are really good with

near the end of tcm i had like only played vindi the last 10 games so people banned andro and vindi when they were playing against us
they used to permanently ban madman versus fntastic took like 2-3 months of him not playing madman until they stopped banning it

and i dunno if this happens these days but a while back when it was US vs EU
the euro team almost always banned magmus because us people play alot more magmus than eu also there are quite a few very good magmus players in us

/e

people used to ban behemoth when playing vs kd because kebap had a pretty good one
same thing vs old "ilx" and all the teams semijew have played in because he actually have a quite decent behe

/e

and i'd also like to mention silu is quite a simple hero asfar as everything goes

laning phase right click someone and they cant do shit
as soon as you get some levels + manareg going you clear creepwaves in 5 seconds and with the ultimate + carrying a tp makes you a hard target to kill

This post was edited by UndeadGad on Jul 11 2011 02:15am
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Jul 14 2011 08:13am
what do you think of Jah's rankings? after a 2nd look it's not that bad, and pretty well put together

you have to read all his bullet points to see how it works (teams start at 100 points etc...)

the 2:1 hero kill bonus seems arbitrary and teams can abuse it if they take their ranking seriously

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=297589


1) FnaticMSI [MSI]
Wins:8 Losses:4 Total Points:152

2) Jokes On You So Deal With It [DWi/EHH]
Wins:8 Losses:4 Total Points:150

3) Online Kingdom [OK]
Wins:6 Losses:4 Total Points:122

4) SK Gaming [SK]
Wins:3 Losses:2 Total Points:108

5) DuskBin Esports [DskB]
Wins:2 Losses:2 Total Points:106

6) Infused Tt eSP0RTS [Infs]
Wins:1 Losses:2 Total Points:93

7) Ex-SK Gaming [ExSK]
Wins:2 Losses:4 Total Points:83

8) sGty [sGty]
Wins:0 Losses:3 Total Points:72

9) Reason Gaming [Rea]
Wins:3 Losses:5 Total Points:71

10) KD Gaming eV [KD]
Wins:2 Losses:6 Total Points:51
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