Can you give me some concise skillbuild differences from hon that have quite a big impact on the game? Seeing as I haven't been playing dota in 2-2,5 years.

well lesh (tort) always maxes stun and edict, never the 3rd skill. thats different though since in dota lesh's stun gets much better with levels, and edict seems to do more damage at quicker intervals.

enigma almost always maxes conversions before stun, since they are just too good during laning phase. enigma also rarely gets blink early if at all, but often goes for survivability / utility such as pipe, vanguard, BKB, mek (depending on game and situation of course)

storm maxes 3rd skill before 1st (after 2nd of course), since its more mana efficient

heroes that need alot of survivability often go for pure vitality booster and then hood against magic-heavy teams. they leave the vitaility booster without combining into anything, except maybe a very lategame heart


its hard to think of too many more since most heroes in HoN are different than Dota, even if they are ports. there are plenty of general differences though, as stated in my previous post and as you will see on stream/ingame

This post was edited by sMACKTRiCKz on Apr 19 2012 04:26pm

I love it when I kill somebody like that and they go LOLO this noob wasted ulti just for me
plus I usually try to get carry/mid/gankers with it not some shitty suports who don't even matter

I already build storm like that. Good to know about leshrac, will keep that in mind.

And now you mention the vitality booster thing, I feel that pure hp items are so much better in dota than in HoN, due to the pace of the game. Or is this just my mind deceiving me?

yeah, thats pretty normal

its funny when you use it like 7 minutes in and they complain "WOW ULTI JUST FOR ME"

well what the fuck else am i going to do with it? go teamfight while game is still in laning phase? i don't have the items or levels or anything to even get the positioning off for a big ulti, and even if i did its still unlikely i get a big ulti off.

i might as well be using it on creeps if i'm only ever going to use it on heroes when i can hit 3+. at least then it'll be more efficient since it won't always be off cooldown and never used





well i think its because it works so well on some heroes in dota. for example, weaver is so squishy and generally needs some nice survivability early game. treads aren't that great on him since attack speed isn't too necessary with his passive, and vitality booster gives you more raw HP than treads (especially since treads are just +8 in dota). also, just going plain hood without any HP obviously isn't good mathematically, so you get both before going for damage items so you can stay alive.

also people realize that its possible to get big ultis off without blink dagger on enigma if you just have enough HP to survive long enough to get into position and tank a few stuns, so sometimes you'll see vit booster + pipe + treads (like synd just did last game).

This post was edited by sMACKTRiCKz on Apr 19 2012 04:33pm

wildsoul in lane is strong i can agree with that
and people rushing blink on heros is fucking retarded.

i hate people having redboots on tempest, ring of the teacher and then a pk.
somehow they think they have done their job, when their fuckign useless.

i mean its 1/100 games u can pull off a full duration ulti on the enemy team without dying on tempest.
but if u have steamboots, manaring, even helm you can push towers on every lane, stay alive in ganks etc.

its funny if u play tempest in 1500-1600 games, ppl actually flame u for not having a pk and going steamboots and shit instead ^^

Yep, "Its 25 minutes and our tempest still doesn't have pk" - another guy "I get mine in less than 8 most of the time" - same guy " yeah 10 at max"...I love those statements.

please do

what the fuck?
3rd game in a row that doesnt record

would of been above 1850 again

i just threw up in my mouth