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Mar 11 2012 12:39pm
Quote (The_Darkness_II @ 11 Mar 2012 19:09)
artesia is pretty cool, she plays a bit like chipper, huge damage, no escape, no real stun, kinda squishy
the main use of artesia later on is:
channel your healskill
place ulti (if you place it before channeling they might be killing it too fast/run away)
spam your nuke 4 times within 2-3 seconds aka 8 nukes with your ulti + massive "spirits" from your passive
that's like 2k dmg if you can pull it off perfectly in those 2-3 seconds, after that you can keep spamming your nuke every 2 seconds

shadowblade: interesting hero, but I've rarely played him
kinesis: no idea
draconis: no idea
EW: okish but too easy to play
nomad: quite nice
moa: quite nice
tremble: stupid hero, luckily he gets rarely picked since his latest nerf
mk: funny to play, stupid to play against, doesn't really fit into hon
monarch: nice hero
geomancer: okish, but 2 pretty dumb/bad skills and magmus > him
gravekeeper: no idea
berzerker: no idea
gemini: think he is ok now but I don't like him
midas: nice hero
dm: quite nice
cthulu: stupid hero but he doesn't annoy me so w/e
salforis: pretty stupid hero, boring to play
ra: ok for me
silho: nice hero
empath: nice hero
martyr: nice hero
rhaps: nice hero

most of the older s2 heroes are nice (bomb, myrm, gaunt, chip, puppet, mm, fayde, dampeer, fa, etc.)

overall I'm fine with S2's heroes, only the 2 week duration pisses me off, should be 1 hero a month or so


heres my opinion of the s2 heroes i did not mention ( the older ones )

scout - i actually like this hero, when use properly he is extremly powerful
madman - now a days he is shit, but in old metagame where melee carry was the shit, holy crap did i love this hero, kinda like a magmus, you can pull off alot of funky shit and make big play after big play aswell as you can win a game solo
tdl - in the melee carry metagame i really liked her because she was exmtrely powerful
fa - i never like this hero, sooooooooooooooooo boring to play, you can kinda compare her to SS except ss you can make big plays, you can buy offensive items, you can be in the middle of the fights instead of standing back like a pussy
engi - ofc i loved oldschool engi ( but actually it was not because of the turret it was because of the engi + kraken ulti combo ) the ulti did insane amount of dmg % per sec aswell as took 5 hits to kill
dampeer - never liked this hero
nymphora - i hate this hero both to play and play against
puppetmaster - people say he is imba nerfed but i still find him very funny to play, if you get a decent start you can have so much fun, ofc i didnt mind him when he was broken with harkon + lifesteal and there was no cap for ancient stacking
chipper - i really suck with chipper but in lower bracket i find him very funny to play, such an aggressive hero
bomb - i like this hero quite alot, all though i rarely play him but he is funny and he is pretty strong
empath - i love the concept of this hero, buuut it's just something that is wrong with it, it needs some sort of change
aluna - god no, get rid of this hero
myrm - like this hero
parasite - hate this hero
revenant - the hero concept i actually kinda like, but just as empath it needs some changes
rhapsody - get rid of this hero
keeper - i kinda like this hero for 2 reasons, afk in woods, and splitpush, sooo effective in public :P
elec - i used to love this hero but after the insane nerf to him + the stupid tanky metagame i hate him now, still an okay hero
new kraken - i hate it, boring to play and the ultimate is still broken imo
old kraken - might be my all time favorite hero, it was sooooo funny to play, why you might ask? because there was nobody who played him, because everyone was afraid of his gamebreaking ulti, and that is why i loved him because there is no better feeling than making the move that wins you the game

panda - stupid hero, only funny to troll with
moraxus - stupid hero
maliken - used to really like this hero, but now i dont like it, the hero itself is okay though
flux - boring as hell
deadwood - it's an okay hero but i dont really like to play it except against noobs where i can do my superitembuilds with shroud and stormspirit and tablets and stupid stuffs like that
balphagore - boring as hell
gauntlet - boring as hell aswell as BROKEN PASSIVE SKILL
arachna - get rid of her
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Mar 11 2012 12:49pm
Quote (UndeadGad @ Mar 11 2012 10:39am)
here's a wall of text no one is going to read


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Mar 11 2012 12:56pm
Quote (prickster @ 11 Mar 2012 19:49)
fixed




problem?

This post was edited by UndeadGad on Mar 11 2012 12:58pm
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Mar 11 2012 01:29pm
Quote (UndeadGad @ Mar 11 2012 07:39pm)
heres my opinion of the s2 heroes i did not mention ( the older ones )

scout - i actually like this hero, when use properly he is extremly powerful
madman - now a days he is shit, but in old metagame where melee carry was the shit, holy crap did i love this hero, kinda like a magmus, you can pull off alot of funky shit and make big play after big play aswell as you can win a game solo
tdl - in the melee carry metagame i really liked her because she was exmtrely powerful
fa - i never like this hero, sooooooooooooooooo boring to play, you can kinda compare her to SS except ss you can make big plays, you can buy offensive items, you can be in the middle of the fights instead of standing back like a pussy
engi - ofc i loved oldschool engi ( but actually it was not because of the turret it was because of the engi + kraken ulti combo ) the ulti did insane amount of dmg % per sec aswell as took 5 hits to kill
dampeer - never liked this hero
nymphora - i hate this hero both to play and play against
puppetmaster - people say he is imba nerfed but i still find him very funny to play, if you get a decent start you can have so much fun, ofc i didnt mind him when he was broken with harkon + lifesteal and  there was no cap for ancient stacking
chipper - i really suck with chipper but in lower bracket i find him very funny to play, such an aggressive hero
bomb - i like this hero quite alot, all though  i rarely play him but he is funny and he is pretty strong
empath - i love the concept of this hero, buuut it's just something that is wrong with it, it needs some sort of change
aluna - god no, get rid of this hero
myrm - like this hero
parasite - hate this hero
revenant - the hero concept i actually kinda like, but just as empath it needs some changes
rhapsody - get rid of this hero
keeper - i kinda like this hero for 2 reasons, afk in woods, and splitpush, sooo effective in public :P
elec -  i used to love this hero but after the insane nerf to him + the stupid tanky metagame i hate him now, still an okay hero
new kraken - i hate it, boring to play and the ultimate is still broken imo
old kraken - might be my all time favorite hero, it was sooooo funny to play, why you might ask? because there was nobody who played him, because everyone was afraid of his gamebreaking ulti, and that is why i loved him because there is no better feeling than making the move that wins you the game

panda - stupid hero, only funny to troll with
moraxus - stupid hero
maliken - used to really like this hero, but now i dont like it, the hero itself is okay though
flux - boring as hell
deadwood - it's an okay hero but i dont really like to play it except against noobs where i can do my superitembuilds with shroud and stormspirit and tablets and stupid stuffs like that
balphagore - boring as hell
gauntlet - boring as hell aswell as BROKEN PASSIVE SKILL
arachna - get rid of her


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your chipper is like best i've ever seen. but only when you use the alt avatar

e:

also random thought i had. remember back in that day when enemy has a soulstealer and you always had that impending fear like "oh shit, if we don't stop that guy he'll have 20 min blink/shrunken and will completely dominate the game"

now its like "oh they picked soulstealer. pick any common hero used in this metagame for mid, and go pubtrain on him a few times and its freewin. also if he happens to get 20 min blink/shrunken he's useless anyway because we'll just use common heroes like kraken/tempest/drunken/nomad and rape him in teamfights regardless despite magic immunity".

This post was edited by sMACKTRiCKz on Mar 11 2012 01:34pm
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Mar 11 2012 01:58pm
league players are so funny

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61376558&f=163

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That Zeus  I Hate Him
It gives no warning when using his global. I wish it said like 3 secs in advance, so while I am someone like jug I can use spin and avoid the damage.
/rage


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he needs to be more like karthu's ult lol
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Mar 11 2012 02:08pm
heh

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Mar 11 2012 02:15pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ 11 Mar 2012 20:29)
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

your chipper is like best i've ever seen. but only when you use the alt avatar

e:

also random thought i had. remember back in that day when enemy has a soulstealer and you always had that impending fear like "oh shit, if we don't stop that guy he'll have 20 min blink/shrunken and will completely dominate the game"

now its like "oh they picked soulstealer. pick any common hero used in this metagame for mid, and go pubtrain on him a few times and its freewin. also if he happens to get 20 min blink/shrunken he's useless anyway because we'll just use common heroes like kraken/tempest/drunken/nomad and rape him in teamfights regardless despite magic immunity".



well back in the days people knew how to punish a lane when they went for pubtrain on another lane

now people are like this, "oh they both left our short lane, i better go stack and pull so we deny experience against nobody + we dont get to touch their tower"
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Mar 11 2012 02:33pm
old kraken was idd amazing. back then I was at ~1500-1600 psr (mmr already?) and it was my favorite hero. I turned so many games with his ulti cause those other noobies would always stick close together so I could always catch 3+ ppl when I had pk ^.^
damn I miss his ulti so much >>
you simply needed 1-2 other heroes with aoe spells (pyro, peb, ...) and you could always instantly kill some heroes while the others couldn't really do anything since they were up to 3k units away ^^
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Mar 11 2012 02:51pm
Quote (The_Darkness_II @ 11 Mar 2012 21:33)
old kraken was idd amazing. back then I was at ~1500-1600 psr (mmr already?) and it was my favorite hero. I turned so many games with his ulti cause those other noobies would always stick close together so I could always catch 3+ ppl when I had pk ^.^
damn I miss his ulti so much >>
you simply needed 1-2 other heroes with aoe spells (pyro, peb, ...) and you could always instantly kill some heroes while the others couldn't really do anything since they were up to 3k units away ^^


engi + kraken ulti was insta genocide


kraken tosses ulti on groud>engi pops his ulti>kraken blinks in pull in 2 or more into engi ulti
silence+preplex for 3 seconds, there is nothing they can do about it
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going to sleep, maybe i will catch more than 4 hours of sleep tonight

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