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Mar 9 2012 12:01pm
Quote (UndeadGad @ 9 Mar 2012 18:39)
bro when you get old you get tired from everything


havent gone out in hmmm.... i think newyear was last time i was drinking

overrated to go out
people are overrated
but most importantly, irl is overrated


thats why you have drugs.

so you can tolerate people
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Mar 9 2012 12:18pm
soulstealer finally seeing some love
Soulstealer
- Increased starting Strength from 15 to 16
- Increased starting Intelligence from 18 to 19
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Mar 9 2012 12:23pm
Quote (Ectasy @ Mar 9 2012 07:18pm)
soulstealer finally seeing some love
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- Increased starting Strength from 15 to 16
- Increased starting Intelligence from 18 to 19


z0mg 19 more hp and mana at lvl 1
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Mar 9 2012 12:25pm
Quote (Fookass @ 9 Mar 2012 12:23)
z0mg 19 more hp and mana at lvl 1


lol
aren't u 1500 mmr
so do you not buy minor totems then?

This post was edited by Ectasy on Mar 9 2012 12:26pm
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Mar 9 2012 12:32pm
The problem with SS is they nerfed the fuck out of him back in the day and haven't really looked back since. back then he was really strong since HoN was really close to DotA except that SS had ridiculous AoE on his demon hands. But since then they increased demon hand mana cost, made the ulti channel way longer than before, and most importantly implemented a fuckton of idiotic heroes that just rape SS mid / throughout the entire game (monkey king, drunken, nomad) on TOP of the heroes that already countered SS (chipper, dw, devo, etc.). IMO what they really need to do is 1) increase the starting strength / strength gain per level more and 2) revert demon hand and ulti to the way they were before. Then he MIGHT be viable again in the hands of a good player.

On another note, what the fuck did they do to vindi. Made him worthless
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Mar 9 2012 12:38pm
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The problem with SS is they nerfed the fuck out of him back in the day and haven't really looked back since. back then he was really strong since HoN was really close to DotA except that SS had ridiculous AoE on his demon hands. But since then they increased demon hand mana cost, made the ulti channel way longer than before, and most importantly implemented a fuckton of idiotic heroes that just rape SS mid / throughout the entire game (monkey king, drunken, nomad) on TOP of the heroes that already countered SS (chipper, dw, devo, etc.). IMO what they really need to do is 1) increase the starting strength / strength gain per level more and 2) revert demon hand and ulti to the way they were before. Then he MIGHT be viable again in the hands of a good player.

On another note, what the fuck did they do to vindi. Made him worthless


not only that but the frostwolf skull nerf also gimped him, aswell as the shieldbreaker buff because it forces you to go for shieldbreaker but the hero doesnt really fit with it

i can live with the fact the ulti is what? 1.4 1.6 cast time thats fine to me
but nerfing his demon hands, that is what makes the hero great, being able to farm rapidly for a decent manacost

but also i think but not sure, they might have nerfed his attackrange at some point, i think it used to be 550 but now it's 500
if someone could correct me please do so

but also the metagame change totally rapes the hero
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Mar 9 2012 12:41pm
SS is still pretty easy to rape pub games below 1800 though
he'll always be maj PAPI
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Mar 9 2012 12:48pm
Quote (Ectasy @ 9 Mar 2012 19:41)
SS is still pretty easy to rape pub games below 1800 though
he'll always be maj PAPI


i havent played 1 game with ss that have been other than 1vs9 game and 1vs5 in the middle lane withour wards, without upgraded courier, courier being spammed on longlane for 1 manapot

every game

i go like 3-5-0 still sitting on 400+ gpm, team is crying "fail mid"
and while i'm playing 1vs5 mid my team dont do anything on the other lanes

so no, ss doesnt work anywhere unless you stack with friends who knows what to do
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Mar 9 2012 12:54pm
Quote (Fookass @ Mar 9 2012 10:23am)
z0mg 19 more hp and mana at lvl 1


you get 13 mana per point of intelligence

i take it you've never played dota or hon
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Mar 9 2012 12:55pm
i think you can still make it work with 1 decent support player. just have him jerk off mid all day and when SS is level 3 or 5 go in for kills all the time. problem is you have to play SO much better than your opponent to make this work, and you also have to be sure they won't go pubtrain mid with 1-2 other supports
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