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May 8 2011 05:17pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ May 9 2011 01:56am)
realize that every last hit you miss is costing you roughly 40 gpm. also watch some chinese dota replays of EH.GIGABYTE.AAA lasthitting, its pretty inspiring


well dunno bout that obv some heroes can last hit easier and farm easier than others but hag mid for instance, dont wanna use all my mana on scream and her damage is kinda low so can have problems against say a ss for instance. do u maybe select the creep ure about to lasthit and watch his hp or watch everything else and just lasthit/deny. im aware against lesser players u can fake an attack or attack another nearby creep to force him on an early deny and then get the kill urself etc... but if he's decent that wont work on moset cases, also would there be a case where denying is favored against lasthitting? and i dont mean on support etc just mid 1v1
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May 8 2011 05:19pm
Quote (Pitbulul @ May 8 2011 07:17pm)
well dunno bout that obv some heroes can last hit easier and farm easier than others but hag mid for instance, dont wanna use all my mana on scream and her damage is kinda low so can have problems against say a ss for instance. do u maybe select the creep ure about to lasthit and watch his hp or watch everything else and just lasthit/deny. im aware against lesser players u can fake an attack or attack another nearby creep to force him on an early deny and then get the kill urself etc... but if he's decent that wont work on moset cases, also would there be a case where denying is favored against lasthitting? and i dont mean on support etc just mid 1v1



easiest way is to pressure them, then secure your lane advantage
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May 8 2011 05:24pm
well ye that wud work im also more into teampushes and harassing more since farming is way too boring. prefer fast games no farm/turtle shit
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May 8 2011 05:52pm
Quote (Pitbulul @ May 9 2011 12:24am)
well ye that wud work im also more into teampushes and harassing more since farming is way too boring. prefer fast games no farm/turtle shit


don't ever play medusa then :P

i find it really fun though to emo farm, its totally awesome having 17 minute treads + nullstone + bassilius
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May 8 2011 06:30pm
the person you're against is a real cocksmack faggot with a hero that has a higher damage range than yours and is focusing on last hitting and able to time it (timing it is pretty herp derp in itself) then start harassing them

if you can throw them off and give them more to worry about than timing last hits all day, you should be good to go as long as you're able to keep up pressure while last hitting
and yeah with a hero like hag there's nothing wrong with spending mana getting last hits
just try to get multiple creeps when you blow it

generally, i'll blow it during the wave when the time is an odd number (y = {0-9}, x = {1, 3, 5, 7, 9} -> yx:30 spawn, collision in mid at yx:45) so hit the warlock/archer enough that it'd die in a scream, lower whatever creeps aren't getting raped by allied creeps (if it's ranged and a melee on one and two melee on another, help the one being hit by 2 melee since you won't be able to lower the one not being hit at all in time to kill it before the one being hit by the ranged and melee will die to creeps)

so that way you can grab the rune and refill your mana and any hp you lost getting the last hits anyways
SS is a faggot hero and will likely just demon hand spam every yx:30 spawn but you get what i mean

it's an added bonus if you can hit SS with the scream as well, that way you get farm, you get harass, and you get rune control

edit: i like SS, but he is still a faggot hero

This post was edited by dude150 on May 8 2011 06:33pm
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May 8 2011 06:49pm
This page is in Chinese (Traditional Han) Would you like to translate it?
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May 8 2011 06:55pm
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the person you're against is a real cocksmack faggot with a hero that has a higher damage range than yours and is focusing on last hitting and able to time it (timing it is pretty herp derp in itself) then start harassing them

if you can throw them off and give them more to worry about than timing last hits all day, you should be good to go as long as you're able to keep up pressure while last hitting
and yeah with a hero like hag there's nothing wrong with spending mana getting last hits
just try to get multiple creeps when you blow it

generally, i'll blow it during the wave when the time is an odd number (y = {0-9}, x = {1, 3, 5, 7, 9}  ->          yx:30 spawn, collision in mid at yx:45) so hit the warlock/archer enough that it'd die in a scream, lower whatever creeps aren't getting raped by allied creeps (if it's ranged and a melee on one and two melee on another, help the one being hit by 2 melee since you won't be able to lower the one not being hit at all in time to kill it before the one being hit by the ranged and melee will die to creeps)

so that way you can grab the rune and refill your mana and any hp you lost getting the last hits anyways
SS is a faggot hero and will likely just demon hand spam every yx:30 spawn but you get what i mean

it's an added bonus if you can hit SS with the scream as well, that way you get farm, you get harass, and you get rune control

edit: i like SS, but he is still a faggot hero


http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?action=dota;area=game&game=154554


hello

e: that SS super emofarmed but still got 1 shotted xDD

This post was edited by sMACKTRiCKz on May 8 2011 06:56pm
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http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?action=dota;area=game&game=154554


hello

e: that SS super emofarmed but still got 1 shotted xDD


sorry you have 1 death
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May 8 2011 06:59pm
Quote (LyZeR @ May 9 2011 01:56am)
sorry you have 1 death


i thought my strength morph could outtank leshrac + qop burst :(


e: jon can you explain why

for cartesian equations to rotate a line you rotate a point (x,y) the opposite direction of the rotational matrix, but for parametric you keep it the same?


This post was edited by sMACKTRiCKz on May 8 2011 07:01pm
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May 8 2011 07:13pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ 9 May 2011 01:59)
i thought my strength morph could outtank leshrac + qop burst :(


e: jon can you explain why

for cartesian equations to rotate a line you rotate a point (x,y) the opposite direction of the rotational matrix, but for parametric you keep it the same?


armlet on morphling is cool

use armlet>use that adaptive strike> stun
turn off armlet>useadaptive strike>do dmg

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