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Oct 15 2011 12:20pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ 14 Oct 2011 13:03)
not really

in dota you normally get phase since its so useful for chasing and your hero has already amazing base attack speed so you don't need the early game speed from treads

then you build hotbl (before or after phase actually, it really depends on how well you're farming or which lane you're in. normally hotbl first item is good).

then firebrand -> geo bane since the manaburn on illusions is sick

then follow up with anything you might need, maybe savage mace or wingbow or something

basic core build though is

hotbl
phase
manta


i prefer steamboots on mb, even if you got hotbl you're still quite squishy from nukes ( unless you're able to proc your magic shield from blink ) and imo blink is enough for chase,
i usually go

steamboots
hotbl
geo
wingbow/heart
after this game is usually over ^^
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Oct 15 2011 12:31pm
Quote (UndeadGad @ Oct 15 2011 07:20pm)
i prefer steamboots on mb, even if you got hotbl you're still quite squishy from nukes ( unless you're able to proc your magic shield from blink ) and imo blink is enough for chase,
i usually go

steamboots
hotbl
geo
wingbow/heart
after this game is usually over ^^


ya its actually alot different in dota

in dota the passive gives 50% magic resist so its like 2 free hoods

so the only thing ur really afraid of is melee attacks, and vanguard rapes those for the early-mid game anyway
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Oct 15 2011 12:32pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Oct 15 2011 02:16pm)
it works just fine for pubs. most of the time people aren't that coordinated so its good to have a stun of your own without relying on your team. but in higher level its just a waste of gold because you won't deal enough DPS compared to the other carry if he saves up that 3k gold from basher and ends up building bfly or mkb or something.

as for geo+bash, i'm not sure about HoN but in dota having images up actually reduces your chance to bash since your images can "fake" bash and then the pseudo-random distribution or whatever will make it less likely for your actual hero to bash within the next few seconds.


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Oct 15 2011 09:01pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Oct 15 2011 10:31am)
ya its actually alot different in dota

in dota the passive gives 50% magic resist so its like 2 free hoods

so the only thing ur really afraid of is melee attacks, and vanguard rapes those for the early-mid game anyway


hmm. do illusions still mana drain in dota?
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Oct 15 2011 11:48pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Oct 16 2011 04:16am)
it works just fine for pubs. most of the time people aren't that coordinated so its good to have a stun of your own without relying on your team. but in higher level its just a waste of gold because you won't deal enough DPS compared to the other carry if he saves up that 3k gold from basher and ends up building bfly or mkb or something.

as for geo+bash, i'm not sure about HoN but in dota having images up actually reduces your chance to bash since your images can "fake" bash and then the pseudo-random distribution or whatever will make it less likely for your actual hero to bash within the next few seconds.


lol just stomped a1780 with basherbane +geo
so mad, so many excuses, i love this game some times
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Oct 16 2011 07:53am
played against a swiftblade who build - ghost - fb - kuldras sheepstick. he was immortal streak.. xD

This post was edited by sgm on Oct 16 2011 07:53am
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Oct 16 2011 07:55am
madman with hex / hellflower is actually quite good, that is if enemy lineup allws you to skip your nullstone
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Oct 16 2011 07:56am
Quote (UndeadGad @ Oct 16 2011 02:55pm)
madman with hex / hellflower is actually quite good, that is if enemy lineup allws you to skip your nullstone


nullstone so overused on so many heroes

some kids literally build it as core on every hero every game

z0rr0 comes to mind
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Oct 16 2011 10:50am
Quote (LTWID @ Oct 13 2011 07:39pm)
Pick behemot and build:
-RA
-Shroud
-Rift Shard

Enrage op


whats RA ?
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Oct 16 2011 11:01am
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Oct 16 2011 05:56am)
nullstone so overused on so many heroes

some kids literally build it as core on every hero every game

z0rr0 comes to mind


well if the enemy line-up has a few single target disables and youre using a mana intensive hero, id say nullstone is a viable choice, which is usually 80% of the time
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