Quote (Ectasy @ Jul 21 2011 10:33am)

whats the matter, y cant u picture pudge in ur head as you're last hitting loL
whats even betting than going mid as a pubstomp devo is laning with a slither bottom lane

Quote (UndeadGad @ 21 Jul 2011 08:35)

yop the only time you're supposed to "power deny" at middle lane is when you either need room to chase or you got a teammate on their way to gank so you wont have to towerdive and risk dying to ports


also it sickens me how people run at runes at like 1:45 or 3:45 because you have your full bottle with 90% hp/mana
and they miss exp/gold from 3-5 creeps in order to guess a rune which is 50/50 they get and like a 1/5 it's something they need


always pisses me the fuck off when i'm playing ss
nuking creepwave versus  a hag for example, he just blinks away with 20% hp 5% mana and runs for bot runes without boots stand there for 15 sec

and it spawns a regen


holy fuck

Quote (UndeadGad @ Jul 21 2011 05:35pm)

yop the only time you're supposed to "power deny" at middle lane is when you either need room to chase or you got a teammate on their way to gank so you wont have to towerdive and risk dying to ports


also it sickens me how people run at runes at like 1:45 or 3:45 because you have your full bottle with 90% hp/mana
and they miss exp/gold from 3-5 creeps in order to guess a rune which is 50/50 they get and like a 1/5 it's something they need


always pisses me the fuck off when i'm playing ss
nuking creepwave versus  a hag for example, he just blinks away with 20% hp 5% mana and runs for bot runes without boots stand there for 15 sec

and it spawns a regen


holy fuck

Quote (UndeadGad @ Jul 21 2011 10:35am)

yop the only time you're supposed to "power deny" at middle lane is when you either need room to chase or you got a teammate on their way to gank so you wont have to towerdive and risk dying to ports


also it sickens me how people run at runes at like 1:45 or 3:45 because you have your full bottle with 90% hp/mana
and they miss exp/gold from 3-5 creeps in order to guess a rune which is 50/50 they get and like a 1/5 it's something they need


always pisses me the fuck off when i'm playing ss
nuking creepwave versus  a hag for example, he just blinks away with 20% hp 5% mana and runs for bot runes without boots stand there for 15 sec

and it spawns a regen


holy fuck

Quote (dude150 @ 21 Jul 2011 15:26)

i find devo one of the hardest heroes to play
imo get someone you can comfortably last hit with, should be number one priority
try to miss as little creeps as possible
a lot of people focus on harassment, but you get about ~380 gpm with perfect last hitting

a big mistake i see a lot of kids do is over harass, which is when they put their focus solely on harassing
like having 7 creep kills at 5 minutes is about 280 gold for you, while the enemy pebbles with 30 creep kills has earned about 1200 and has his bottle and boots and can come step on your face whenever he wants to

obv harass is very good if you can make it lead to a kill or cause pressure to reduce their creep killing, but take your time finding that balance and work on farming imo
heroes that can do both are, i think, best to start with

witch slayer (line up graveyards to kill 2-3 creeps when you toss it, throw few hits at enemy when you do
pyro (line enemy up with wave)
defiler (same deal)

melee heroes can be strong tho, but you need to have good spacing and timing to walk up to get the last hits on time
you don't want to spend any more time at the creeps taking hits from enemy hero as you need to, and if he goes deep you can abuse ramp fog/just straight up meet him half way and stomp his face

Quote (Moonflow @ Jul 21 2011 10:54am)

I think SS is a very good example for this. So is DR. They can both use nukes to creep, or harass at the same time, while also getting the last hits.

Quote (dude150 @ 21 Jul 2011 16:03)

they can be, but both are also very easily avoided (specifically repulsor's)
versus a melee hero, both especially effective, but otherwise you can't always hope for a nuke to hit hero and net 2-4 creeps
i just like the straight line-style nukes since you can basically dictate the position of your enemy if they try to avoid it, and if they don't they pay

like the ez mind games, weaken the creeps that aren't being hit so they think you are going to nuke it to get your 2-4 creeps, then they stand on the edge of the lane and my mag and myrm come out of trees and ganks cuz i'm tryhard can't win mid solo