seems a bit silly to me buying bottle on heroes like zeph, ra, pred or any hero capable of regenerating health quickly
i think ra is big favorite if u skill passive, throw in some autos on zeph while focusing lasthits/denies

well middle is about rune control that is why heroes who have no use for a bottle is an insane waste to go mid, unless it's smt like balph/ws who can destroy runes and therefor win mid coz enemy hero cant use any runes

speaking of mid lineups, how do you feed as dr vs a chipper at the same skill level?
i get that you can't play offensively like you usually do with dr (grip will end with you having 3 rockets to the face) but doesn't DR have a better attack animation, allowing for some good cks while playing defensively?

if the chipper is somewhat decent he will rape a dr of same skill

at lvl 6 you might have a chance with a good rune

ill/haste/dd

so you should either gank alot or try to get some teammate to gank for u

yeah i figured chipper has the advantage, i guess im gonna watch the replay and see how the dr played
chipper was 9-0 at like 6 minutes sooo that DR didnt do too well at all

if u can outfarm their mid and keep ur hp up u shouldn't have to get runes
waste time and miss farm to go get something u don't need
unless u can secure a kill on their mid while he gets rune i don't see any need




in this lineup as opposed to my example, once dr hits 6 with bottle and gains runecontrol it's pretty much over for chipper

mid is about runecontrol

that is why heroes like ss/hag/bubbles is effective at mid, because they can nuke down a wave pretty fast and then jump/blink incase of a runerace and if you push the wave at 3:50 or so you wont miss out any farm aswell as if enemy runes on a rune be4 it spawns he have 50% to get it, and even if he do get it he will still miss out 4 creeps of exp/gold

watched replay
that DR was just really bad; he went to gank top at level 5 (no ult..) without an invis/haste
and it was also the long lane, and they were already pushed to tower
he also wasnt watching for chipper to countergank so chipper came up and got a hattrick
fucking bad

yea i agree and it was sort of what i said
what's the point of investing into bottle if u won't get any runes vs hag/bub/sil or w/e mobile hero

well the point is if you are a hero that doesnt need a bottle you shouldnt mid