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Jul 29 2011 12:29pm
I will concede the fact that DotA was a better game than HoN from the years 2003-2008.

However from 2009-2011 HoN is the better game.
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Jul 29 2011 12:29pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Jul 29 2011 09:27pm)
icefrog as a sole developer and like 100 beta testers managed to make a better game than a whole multi-million dollar company with a dev team, balance team, forum team, etc.

holy slaM


icefrog came up with the whole concept
s2 improved it imo by adding stuff wc3 engine could never have
then they turned hon to shit by starting to change stuff that didnt need any changing
then making the game free, gg wp no re thx bye
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Jul 29 2011 12:31pm
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I will concede the fact that DotA was a better game than HoN from the years 2003-2008.

However from 2009 - June 2011 HoN is the better game.


fixed


Quote (Pitbulul @ Jul 29 2011 02:29pm)
icefrog came up with the whole concept
s2 improved it imo by adding stuff wc3 engine could never have
then they turned hon to shit by starting to change stuff that didnt need any changing
then making the game free, gg wp no re thx bye


yup, only improvements were to the engine
but even then, wc3 engine never had units getting stuck on the corners of buildings
and it had better pathing imo
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Jul 29 2011 12:31pm
should i waste 250 out of my 700 gold coins on early access monkey king to make people rage?

also how do i select monkey king in all pick first?
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Jul 29 2011 12:32pm
Quote (prickster @ Jul 29 2011 07:29pm)
I will concede the fact that DotA was a better game than HoN from the years 2003-2008.

However from 2009-2011 HoN is the better game.


better in terms of grapihcs and engine yes but thats not icefrogs fault really

you arent going to design a whole new engine and market it as 1 person with no huge financial backing

dota was pretty much always a better game in terms of balance and competitive potential, though i do admit hon had it beat in the fact that dota used the shitty wc3 engine


but now hon horrible because you all paid $$ and now some idiot off the streets can DL it for free. also if you want to play heroes which some other nerds who paid $$ have access to, you need to pay $$ as well. and i don't even want to get into the whole new heroes thing in HoN, that is some of the most shitty design i've ever seen, even 14 year old kids on dota forums think of better concepts
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Jul 29 2011 12:32pm
Quote (prickster @ Jul 29 2011 02:31pm)
should i waste 250 out of my 700 gold coins on early access monkey king to make people rage?

also how do i select monkey king in all pick first?


make a script to place cursor at appropriate coordinates and then activate auto left-clicker
or stick a bit of tape to your screen where he is and spam click it asap


Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Jul 29 2011 02:32pm)
better in terms of grapihcs and engine yes but thats not icefrogs fault really

you arent going to design a whole new engine and market it as 1 person with no huge financial backing

dota was pretty much always a better game in terms of balance and competitive potential, though i do admit hon had it beat in the fact that dota used the shitty wc3 engine


but now hon horrible because you all paid $$ and now some idiot off the streets can DL it for free. also if you want to play heroes which some other nerds who paid $$ have access to, you need to pay $$ as well. and i don't even want to get into the whole new heroes thing in HoN, that is some of the most shitty design i've ever seen, even 14 year old kids on dota forums think of better concepts


this

This post was edited by dude150 on Jul 29 2011 12:33pm
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Jul 29 2011 12:33pm
message pandaroohoo@jsp and tell him way to ruin hon.
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Jul 29 2011 12:34pm
Quote (dude150 @ Jul 29 2011 11:31am)
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HoN is still a great game, it's the company is really really shitty. You have to separate the two

they made some nice balance changes

the only thing they fucked up was the early release content
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Jul 29 2011 12:37pm
Quote (prickster @ Jul 29 2011 02:34pm)
HoN is still a great game, it's the company is really really shitty. You have to separate the two

they made some nice balance changes

the only thing they fucked up was the early release content


rushing content is a terrible thing to do
taking time and releasing a single hero every month or two months is way more sensible than polluting the hero pool with garbage

reminds me of those shitty fighting games where there are like "CHOOSE FROM 100 FIGHTERS" instead of "CHOOSE FROM 20 FIGHTERS WITH HIGHLY DEVELOPED METAGAME AND UNIQUENESS"


things started going downhill when beta ended, imo
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Jul 29 2011 12:38pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Jul 29 2011 11:32am)
terms of balance and competitive potential,


disagree, both have balance issues

hon has more competitive potential, it's run by a company and has a better engine

keep licking icefrog's balls though
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