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Jul 27 2011 12:27pm
Quote (dude150 @ Jul 27 2011 07:23pm)
this
i enjoy very much

it's almost why i like grimm's crossing so much, cuz the most logical thing (imo) is to rice the entire game
but in grimm's crossing, ricing is completely removed and it's all down to playing it out


ricing is like something that doesn't really have a high technical skill ceiling, since mostly everything you do revolves around theory and calculation (distance, timing, spreading auto attacks with runed cleaver and aoe spells to minimize the amount required, etc, of everything to maximize gold gain while balancing other things like defending, timing tp to get every last lane creep you can before enemy reaches you and gets you, and making many other decisions)

so as long as the people on your team aren't totally derped you should be fine

like testie, very good rice playstyle, but when he has enough weight on his back a bunch of rands can stomp his face and embarrass him with ease


hard carry isnt a role you will stomp public games solo on so easily

you need mid with semi-carry with ganking potential, its the only way

but with a friend or two hard carry is the easiest guaranteed win. when me + ecstasy played dota pub we were 4v5, him CM me naga siren and 2 other rands with garbage heroes. enemy team had super tryhard lineup and everything but because i got to freefarm lane i had 20 min manta + treads + diffusal = slaM anyone regardless. same concept applies to almost any public

and imo ricing has a very high skill ceiling to do perfectly. takes alot of practice to not miss any creeps in freefarm lane and to know where to farm at certain times. also since supports roam so much in metagame now u have to be able to last hit well solo vs another hero. i guess the hardest thing though is having the discipline to keep farming even after you've got your core items and not just get like 20 min nullstone and then 40 mins nothing else
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Jul 27 2011 12:28pm
dont know where i left off in this thread when i went to bed so ill
tl;dr everything from there if you go back and find it

tl;dr euros and dude talking about shit
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Jul 27 2011 12:29pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Jul 27 2011 02:27pm)
hard carry isnt a role you will stomp public games solo on so easily

you need mid with semi-carry with ganking potential, its the only way

but with a friend or two hard carry is the easiest guaranteed win. when me + ecstasy played dota pub we were 4v5, him CM me naga siren and 2 other rands with garbage heroes. enemy team had super tryhard lineup and everything but because i got to freefarm lane i had 20 min manta + treads + diffusal = slaM anyone regardless. same concept applies to almost any public

and imo ricing has a very high skill ceiling to do perfectly. takes alot of practice to not miss any creeps in freefarm lane and to know where to farm at certain times. also since supports roam so much in metagame now u have to be able to last hit well solo vs another hero.  i guess the hardest thing though is having the discipline to keep farming even after you've got your core items and not just get like 20 min nullstone and then 40 mins nothing else


thats dota, where the meta game is all about hard carries late game, HoN is completely different and if you tried that hit you would most likely lose your game
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Jul 27 2011 12:30pm
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thats dota, where the meta game is all about hard carries late game, HoN is completely different and if you tried that hit you would most likely lose your game


worked pretty well when i played hon. if by "that shit" you mean farming, then there's no escaping it in dota or hon. its just part of the game.

plus i find it hard to take advice from someone who had trouble solo pubbing to 1650s with more than 70% winrate

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Jul 27 2011 12:33pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Jul 27 2011 02:30pm)
worked pretty well when i played hon. if by "that shit" you mean farming, then there's no escaping it in dota or hon. its just part of the game.

plus i find it hard to take advice from someone who had trouble solo pubbing to 1650s with more than 70% winrate

http://goanimate.com/movie/0IuKqZWesvXw?utmsource=linkshare&uid=08WAhwmEHjS4


last time you played was over 4 months ago

plus i find it hard to take advice from sosmeone who is scared to 1v1 a 1650 70% win rate solo pubber

_/

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Jul 27 2011 12:35pm
Quote (rowe @ Jul 27 2011 07:33pm)
last time you played was over 4 months ago

plus i find it hard to take advice from sosmeone who is scared to 1v1 a 1650 70% win rate solo pubber

_/

stay small peon


u dodged every invite i sent wheni was playing. now 4 months later u want to 1v1 when you've been playing everyday and im rusty. sounds legit

btw if i managed to beat or at least go even 1-1 with tim, loki, and pretty much everyone else on jsp i doubt you stand much of a chance small son
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Jul 27 2011 12:36pm
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Jul 27 2011 02:35pm)
u dodged every invite i sent wheni was playing. now 4 months later u want to 1v1 when you've been playing everyday and im rusty. sounds legit

btw if i managed to beat or at least go even 1-1 with tim, loki, and pretty much everyone else on jsp i doubt you stand much of a chance small son


so you admitted you are scared to 1v1 me?

ok go take a seat small son and leave the shit talking to the big boys
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Jul 27 2011 12:40pm
seems like we have many small sons (=
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Jul 27 2011 12:41pm
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so you admitted you are scared to 1v1 me?

ok go take a seat small son and leave the shit talking to the big boys


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Jul 27 2011 12:42pm
iffy jelly he can only afford ed hardy, too cheap for real shit
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