Even if they planned for being this popular and people being extremely critical of their game, wouldn't we still be in the same place we are today?

If they planned for the game to be F2P with early access heroes wouldn't we be worse off than we are now?

I don't think Maliken had a defined goal of HoN. First it was capitalize on the dota market, hire icefrog and hopefully have a playerbase like savage1/2. Then after retail they realized HoN was huge, and they started working on the cash shop. Then they realized the cash shop was a boon and they focused a lot of resources on that. Then you have maliken's latest comment where he wants the most people to be happy with the game, aka casual players.

It shifted from make a great game, to make a game that will make lots of money.

The problem is maliken is more businessman than gamer.

it was a matter of time before it went f2p...
just look at savage 1 and 2, but the way they did f2p for hon was different...

yes maliken is a businessman, but who can honestly say they dont want to make money...
but he fucked up a game that everyone was happy with, to something only "casual" players are happy with.

idk if this analogy will do the trick but

its like going from the original call of duties to modern warfare 2/3 in months....

but why/how did he fuck it up?

Was he incompetent from the start and doesn't know how to make a quality product?

Did he turn greedy after the cash shop and just wants to sell crap instead of polishing his product?

Or is it a combination of both?

It seemed like this game was doomed ever since Marc Deforest started it.

I bet if Icefrog stayed past retail he would have quit just like nome.

Wtf you guys talking about? Jesus Christ, go out and drink a night and think about this shit... You'll realize that S2 is a bunch of drunk Michigan assholes, capitalizing on the stupidity that is profounding even to them. Being a person from Michigan, maybe I understand it better than you guys do (due to a unique perspective from this state, not lieing, ask some mother fuckers from this shit hole surrounded by water.)... To put it in to perspective; I'm some fuck who'll admittedly proclaim that I've bought gold coin from S2, but also bitch about the faults of the company. When it comes down to it, it doesn't matter that they're dealing bull shit. They know it! What matters is that all us fucks are playing their game. Don't you fucking understand that?!? Bitch all you want about it, flame all you want on these forums, proclaim anything you want... The fact of it is, you're on this forum because you either play, or in fact will play this game. They're doing something right and have won our time. I don't care how you feel, the fact is they're dumb asses, or what ever. These dumb asses have our dumb asses playing/following their game. Nuff said, all that matters, stfu, quit kidding yourselves... Either leave forum/s2 games or prove them right.

TL'DR (in actuality) Yeah they're ripping everyone off on their costs of anything in game, even with their "special" deals. But, we're all playing and we're all buying as fiscally accessible. Get your heads out the sand/your own ass, it's a good game and you love it.
Off to play a game, see you all later.

^
except none of us spent $ on coins and i for one didn't even buy the game, had a friend gift it to me

Yeah but i'm slowly ruining the community and using S2's servers. I roop people in about half my games and 2 of my accounts on the forum have been banned for trolling. I've also gotten several people banned with my RAP reports. I haven't given them money since 2009.

S2 didn't win my time, icefrog did, and eventually he'll win it again once Dota2 becomes more polished.

The only good things S2 did were

1)net code (though over the past 2 years it's declined)
2)faster game play/animations
3)shipped russians off to garena

This post was edited by prickster on Feb 17 2012 09:14am

ide say polishing his products, its like hes still making lead toys that arent being recalled...

Since when is a ws bad mid vs meele gankers?

ws is pro mid ! best counter vs nomad... coz drain mana instant kills the illus..



vouch.

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