swift with staff of master first item

oh yea, sb with staff, sols and shieldbreaker is funny aswell

not really

in dota you normally get phase since its so useful for chasing and your hero has already amazing base attack speed so you don't need the early game speed from treads

then you build hotbl (before or after phase actually, it really depends on how well you're farming or which lane you're in. normally hotbl first item is good).

then firebrand -> geo bane since the manaburn on illusions is sick

then follow up with anything you might need, maybe savage mace or wingbow or something

basic core build though is

hotbl
phase
manta

Pub magebane common build in 5.6X versions was pthreads, vanguard, basher and vlads.

yeah basher used alot in pubs


imo vlads its almost totally worthless. with manta + mana break you really need only 2-3 seconds of hitting a target + ulti to kill them. vlads doesn't help that much

as for basher, its OK but so many better choices. it just doesn't give enough damage and the stun really isn't so amazing. you don't need it most cases if you have even 1-2 stunners on team

Dagger, codex sniper.

Ult, blink, codex, nuke, laugh.




Only works if you're way ahead early.

youre obviously better than me, but i play a fuckload of magebane because hes probably the easiest to carry my friends with while they learn hon
anyway, i think basher is .. maybe nearly core on him
most of the time, its just fucking amazing to have on him, and even though its a trash item, just fits him so well, geo + bash, gives you that 1 second of -500 mana
having said that, you can build magebane with whatever you want and he still rapes, he needs a nerf in my opinion

Hmmmmmmm... Just might give a few of these a try tonight Especially the mb bash + geo build... Sounds like fun ^-^. Saw someone have some fun w/ codex on tremble late game too. That was interesting. But I'm not a big fan of tremble :x

i thought geo was standard

it works just fine for pubs. most of the time people aren't that coordinated so its good to have a stun of your own without relying on your team. but in higher level its just a waste of gold because you won't deal enough DPS compared to the other carry if he saves up that 3k gold from basher and ends up building bfly or mkb or something.

as for geo+bash, i'm not sure about HoN but in dota having images up actually reduces your chance to bash since your images can "fake" bash and then the pseudo-random distribution or whatever will make it less likely for your actual hero to bash within the next few seconds.