Quote (Pitbulul @ 3 Aug 2011 15:50)
small sons&friends moving up to next level
clan is growing now a bit and we did 2xgames on trilane and we won em
so anyway i haz some questions and i'd like some tips and whatnot
1-what r best combos for trilanes
2-what should solo/mid lane be like
3-if we get outpicked and can't handle their trilane how do we react
4-what do we do if we run a trilane vs their solo, duke it out and try to outfarm or go port
5-what should support/roam do if they got wards and fall back when they try to gank
6-also iso opinions on top heroe picks and what counters them best
i know the basics, ppl should carry tps and help out have a general map awarness and be ready to react when ppl get jumped
also carries should try to keep farm as much as they can where they can and only help out if other team pushes as 5
all tips r welcome and i'll appreciate pros or high rated players experienced in trilanes posting their thoughts here as well
(dude, undead, smack etc....)
1- well you need a good lineup for entire team, and as far as trilane go you want at least 1 aoe stun + 1-2 single target stuns, so if going on defensive lane you can work fine with 2 stuns but should be aoe stuns, so behe/hammer/mag if you're running a range carry + myrm + flint/fa/cd/whatever
2- your solo lanes need to be something you are sure will do at least "fine" versus their solos and have good synergi with your team kinda hard to explain since theres so much to go through but for example if you're having magmus on your trilane you want to be able to stun + ulti with any of your teammate so you can pretty much set up a kill wherever you go so in this case your solos could be like a elec mid especially if enemy mid is like a ss or smt elec will dominate, and on the other solo lane you have something like a bubbles or valk because they'll also allow you to synergize good with them aswell as they provide your team with a decent initiation and decent burst aoe
3- if you cant handle their trilane theres 2 things you can do, A either try to rape both their solos or B try to regain control over your trilane by having your solos gank for you, ofc both options is situational
4- if you go 3vs1 you must A make sure he dont get any experience whatsoever this is prevented by standing offensive with supports + a laneward while your carry take solo exp and powerdeny and incase of a push you must quickly react by having the pullspot stacked so you can instantly get the lane pushed back, also it is a good idea to stack woods if you got spare time and always be ready with port for solo lanes
5- A shut down their warding with counter wards B have good vision over all lanes and just stand where you know they got ward and try to bait them to port and stuffs like that, while they dont get any farm and as soon as they port you must react by falling back and try to get tower kills on empty lanes
6- i cant rly help you much here since i suck at picking but top heroes are ( imo )
for this metagame you would want most of the following heroes in same lineup
melee stunner for trilane
behemoth
magmus
hammerstorm
range support for trilane
myrm
andro
nymphora
witch slayer ( only if you know you will do 3vs1 ) because in 3v3 witch is really shit so is magmus, they both need at least lvl 3 in order to do good on tri
tri carry
flint
cd
aluna
pyro
puppet
maybe valk if running a aggresive as hell trilane aka behe/hs + andro/myrm + valk
solos
slither
bubbles
valk
silhu
cd
kraken
tempest
chipper
plague
even vindi if he suits your lineup and is a good counter to enemy lineup
pharaoh
doctor
i probably forgot a couple of heroes but w/e
and most picks as far as "the best team" goes is personal what you and your teammates can play the best
and if i'd to pick a lineup with those heroes
i prolly say a
magmus
myrm
puppet/aluna/valk
bubbles
doctor/vindi/plague/tempest
that way magmus can synergize with most heroes except for plague
you have a really good team overall
at least 2 big aoe stuns
lots of aoe damage
good carry potencial
good initiation
decent counter initiation
but w/e there are lots of different shit you can pick