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Jun 5 2011 11:38pm
Quote (prickster @ Jun 6 2011 01:36am)
tort is wasted mid, his rune control is weak

he's a dominant side lane solo

i've seen swindlemelonzz rape many people with

2x runes of blight, ring of protection, 4x minor totems
ring of teacher
mana battery
bottle
powersupply
steam boots
pk
kuldra
shrunken


like i said if hes as bad as he stated it shouldnt be hard to rape mid with tort...and control the runes
literally spam agonizing bonds
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Jun 5 2011 11:45pm
i think the skill build is more important than the item build

max bonds, then impalement, then the stun, but you want one point of the stun at lvl 2 or 4

the stun is shittier than impalement for the 1v1 situation

you max bonds because the cooldown is low as fuck, and it's easy harass, it also sets up your stun when you drag someone back

the build would look like

stun
bonds
bonds
impalement
bonds
impalement
bonds
impalement
impalement
stun
stun
stun

at lvl 1 you can pick whatever skill, stun is just the most utility at that point, but you could wait to see if the lanes are set then level bonds if you see you aren't getting ganked
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Jun 5 2011 11:48pm
Quote (prickster @ Jun 5 2011 10:45pm)
i think the skill build is more important than the item build

max bonds, then impalement, then the stun, but you want one point of the stun at lvl 2 or 4

the stun is shittier than impalement for the 1v1 situation

you max bonds because the cooldown is low as fuck, and it's easy harass, it also sets up your stun when you drag someone back

the build would look like

stun
bonds
bonds
impalement
bonds
impalement
bonds
impalement
impalement
stun
stun
stun

at lvl 1 you can pick whatever skill, stun is just the most utility at that point, but you could wait to see if the lanes are set then level bonds if you see you aren't getting ganked


Oh I usually do the opposite.. change impalement with stun lol

but impalement better for the push power?
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Jun 5 2011 11:49pm
Quote (prickster @ Jun 6 2011 05:45am)
i think the skill build is more important than the item build

max bonds, then impalement, then the stun, but you want one point of the stun at lvl 2 or 4

the stun is shittier than impalement for the 1v1 situation

you max bonds because the cooldown is low as fuck, and it's easy harass, it also sets up your stun when you drag someone back

the build would look like

stun
bonds
bonds
impalement
bonds
impalement
bonds
impalement
impalement
stun
stun
stun

at lvl 1 you can pick whatever skill, stun is just the most utility at that point, but you could wait to see if the lanes are set then level bonds if you see you aren't getting ganked


spine spike
prevent surprise buttsex
spine
snot
spike
ult
spike
prevent surprise buttsex
prevent surprise buttsex
prevent surprise buttsex
ult
snot
snot
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Jun 5 2011 11:50pm
you dont get snot till lvl 9, or did you change your build?
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Jun 5 2011 11:52pm
Quote (prickster @ Jun 6 2011 05:50am)
you dont get snot till lvl 9, or did you change your build?


wolf
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wolf
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wolf
ult
wolf
passive
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passive
ult
global
global
global
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Jun 5 2011 11:56pm
Quote (iffy1 @ 6 Jun 2011 06:52)
wolf
passsive
wolf
passive
wolf
ult
wolf
passive
passive
passive
ult
global
global
global


you do realize the howl is way better than your shitty passive? not to mention if you're in vent with someone then you just tell them when they're going for someone>you howl they get much easier time getting a kill, not to mention it will help your mid to get a good advantage when it comes to creeping
why?

#1 your passive doesnt scale well until you get up some items, like any other passive
#2 giving +44 damage to 4 heroes for over 10 seconds, gives an insane advantage when they're making a go on their lanes
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Jun 5 2011 11:56pm
My Torturer Mid:

Starting items:
- 1x Runes of Blight.
- 4x Minor Totems.
- 1x Hill ward / Rune ward [questionable @ times].

Tort has good base damage, doesn't need anything else for starting items.

Last hit/Harass w/ Agonizing bonds.
Get bottle by 2 minutes.
Have rune control / dominance in lane.

Final Items:
- Steams/Marchers [questionable based @ picks].
- Bottle.
- Power Supply.
- Nullstone / Shrunken Head [questionable based @ picks].
- Sheepstick.
- Frostfield Plate / Portal Key.

Other items i consider: Nomes Wisdom, Behemoths Heart.

Skill Build:
1/3/3/2/3 | Max 3, then 2, then 1, then ult.



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Jun 6 2011 12:00am
i prefer to just get 1 on the impalement, since the longer duration on the stun can be really crucial if you're getting caught out of postion, rune race, if you're up against a blinker and want to be able to kill easier when you get ganks/when you ganks etz, not to mention it will make it easy to get your farm going 1 hit on every creep>stun>bonds>creepwave dead, and mana aint really an issues since when you mid with tort you usually get
bottle chalice powersupply ring of the teacher and steamboots, and if you micro your steamboots properly you'll save quite a nice amount of life and mana
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Jun 6 2011 12:00am
Quote (UndeadGad @ Jun 6 2011 05:56am)
you do realize the howl is way better than your shitty passive? not to mention if you're in vent with someone then you just tell them when they're going for someone>you howl they get much easier time getting a kill, not to mention it will help your mid to get a good advantage when it comes to creeping
why?

#1 your passive doesnt scale well until you get up some items, like any other passive
#2 giving +44 damage to 4 heroes for over 10 seconds, gives an insane advantage when they're making a go on their lanes


ive tested all builds. i think the passive suits me better since i jungle. n at lvl 6 with 2x lvl in passive, the ias along with the ult ias helps me to become a good ganker

steamboots + alchestbones hurt a lot around lvl 8 with ult + 2 wolves
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