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May 24 2011 03:27pm
Quote (Necropheliac @ 24 May 2011 15:26)
Definitely interesting. I guess this works out because they pretty much have last hits assigned to certain heroes? Whereas this wouldn't really work in a sub 1800 matchup cuzzz pubbers just wanna KS everything?


not necessarily, you can find support that knows how giving farm works in sub1800, but trilanes are more of a tryhard thing that not a lot of people bother with *in pub/mm games

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Quote (Necropheliac @ May 24 2011 05:26pm)
Definitely interesting. I guess this works out because they pretty much have last hits assigned to certain heroes? Whereas this wouldn't really work in a sub 1800 matchup cuzzz pubbers just wanna KS everything?


not really assigned cs, ofc you wanna get your "carry" farmed but if they are unabel to reach the creep due to low hp etc, support will take
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May 24 2011 03:30pm
well in pubs its not that effective for some reasons,
a) ppl suck on trilane e.g suck in ganks, are not aggressive enough, take farm
b) ppl feed the solo lanes, which often times ends up in farmed carries (example: noobhag solos long lane vs enemy carry and feeds, at the same time the trilane supports are not keeping the the enemy out of expierience range. (note: example for a 1-1-3 vs 2-1-2 which often occurs when trilaning on pubs))
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May 24 2011 03:33pm
Quote (cRaZyfLo @ May 24 2011 05:30pm)
well in pubs its not that effective for some reasons,
a) ppl suck on trilane e.g suck in ganks, are not aggressive enough, take farm
b) ppl feed the solo lanes, which often times ends up in farmed carries (example: noobhag solos long lane vs enemy carry and feeds, at the same time the trilane supports are not keeping the the enemy out of expierience range. (note: example for a 1-1-3 vs 2-1-2 which often occurs when trilaning on pubs))


its the fact that people dont understand how to play

we can roop ourselfs to 10 deaths with -gpm and still come back and win, its not hard.
people dont know how to use advantages once they get them.
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May 24 2011 03:35pm
Quote (cRaZyfLo @ May 24 2011 02:26pm)
torturer is not really a support hero whatsoever, more like ganker/semi carry even, i just guess he was the farmer on that trilane.
might be elec as well, as elec kinda scales and _can_ kinda have a semi carry role (hi mana shield)(check out pro player "brized" or his history about that).


Easy hero for dominating teams in team fights.
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May 24 2011 04:21pm
Quote (Necropheliac @ 24 May 2011 22:23)
Hmmm so for that game who was the carry for the bottom lane? Valk and ??? glacius/tort/elec all seemed like support heroes.


If you have a look at the legion lineup, they didnt actually HAVE a hard carry or anything.
Usually it's someone like Gladiator, Madman, Archer are the ones that get the farm out of lanes like that.

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well in pubs its not that effective for some reasons,
a) ppl suck on trilane e.g suck in ganks, are not aggressive enough, take farm
b) ppl feed the solo lanes, which often times ends up in farmed carries (example: noobhag solos long lane vs enemy carry and feeds, at the same time the trilane supports are not keeping the the enemy out of expierience range. (note: example for a 1-1-3 vs 2-1-2 which often occurs when trilaning on pubs))


You need co-ordination for it, that's why it's not so good in pubs.
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May 24 2011 04:44pm
Another question, which isn't related to tri-lanes, but also seen it a lot in these games is the Ring of the Teacher. I see guys getting it on pretty much everything. Valk, Hag for one, in the game I'm watching. Question is, what do you turn those into? Do you actually have to make a bigger item of it, or just discard it after early-mid game, and only use it then for the slight mana regen etc?
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May 24 2011 04:46pm
Quote (Moonflow @ May 24 2011 06:44pm)
Another question, which isn't related to tri-lanes, but also seen it a lot in these games is the Ring of the Teacher. I see guys getting it on pretty much everything. Valk, Hag for one, in the game I'm watching. Question is, what do you turn those into? Do you actually have to make a bigger item of it, or just discard it after early-mid game, and only use it then for the slight mana regen etc?


most heroes they are for mana regen and pushing and bonus damage, and they are discarded mid-late game after they get item slots filled
alternatively some int heroes change them to nomes wisdom ( bubs,tort, hag,etc) and some melee may change to abyssal skull

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May 24 2011 04:49pm
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most heroes they are for mana regen and pushing and bonus damage, and they are discarded mid-late game after they get item slots filled
alternatively some int heroes change them to nomes wisdom ( bubs,tort, hag,etc) and some melee may change to abyssal skull


Yeah, thought of these items, but didn't think anyone like Valk would wanna do any of those. Thanks for the input.
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May 24 2011 04:51pm
Quote (Moonflow @ May 24 2011 06:49pm)
Yeah, thought of these items, but didn't think anyone like Valk would wanna do any of those. Thanks for the input.


on valk its for farming + pushing, instead of going for a bottle they can save 100g and it has dual 3 purposes
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