Imo, Id rather support the team than focusing on farming. I don't stack creeps for myself, i would rather do it for the carry (Inspired by Empr), cause the carry is most important, and what minute you get ur pk doesn't really matter imo, u can still gang, if you have good runecontrole, or if ur smart
Bottle and boots i prefer to get before pk

if the lane isn't getting totally stomped, i'd probably get the quick port key so that i could then roam the entire map glacial blasting ass/being able to initiate ganks with the lane's hero(es)

if i'm playing a hero like hag, though, i always mass stack for myself and take farm wherever i can get it, since having twice the xp/min as anybody else and nullstone + frostfield early is pretty much gg

some people will argue that and say it is better to be warding/counter-warding and roam ganking the entire game, but i will personally never do that with certain heroes

the heroes that i would do that with are heroes that i never play

This post was edited by dude150 on Aug 24 2010 04:43am

i dont know how you didnt get any catman spawns, those things take anything that isnt a level 4 elemental down in like 4 seconds seemingly but it started in a different area then i do, i usually start at the yellow spawn and just switch to 1 or the 2 close spawns to it



im trying it in a practice game now... all 3 of the right spawns beyond the yellow jungle spawn are minotaur ones >.<

This post was edited by davidchico on Aug 24 2010 11:37am

I always have mine around minute 9.

catman spawns give more gold
just split them up a little bit so that the bitch doesn't stomp
but yeah, elementals can take 3 hits from the big blue one at level 1 or something which makes it a real bitch to do

personally, i like minotaur spawns
they hit no where as hard as wolves, and the goatar can be used for elemental unlike wild hunters, probably my preferred spawn second to ogres

Why are you clicking so much? Are you trying to get fancy?

its kinda natural to do, and i do it myself

i click often too, but not nearly THAT much, thats just crying for APEM attention or something of the sort.

lol? i don't know, that's just how i play and how i've always played
that's not even much compared to a lot of people

edit: plastic girl in your sig is absolutely repulsive

This post was edited by dude150 on Aug 27 2010 08:19pm

For early items and playing support buy courier and 8 things of mana pots. This is what you should always start out with. after this the first 500 gold i like to get ring of teacher and keep the aura on for the 3+ armor with some more mana pots remember to always keep the mana pots ticking on you and DONT GET HIT!!!!

well to get a early good tempest key at 10 min mark or earlyer then that would be to go to the first spawn right by first tower middle after you killed that camp run to the cloest one to you and (double spawn it) Double spawn is when the timer is at 0:52 secs you attack the creeps and run far away so when it gets to 1:00 you get 2 spawns. LEAVE THAT CAMP ALONE AFTER THAT!!!!!!!!! or you get fucked if its cat men or the troll looking things. you should be around level 2 still so move to another camp spawn until you hit level 3. MAKE SURE you keep on double spawning everthing you can you have to keep a eye out for that. IF you can double spawn and then pull your creeps that spawn into them this will help out for a level and you wont have to waste mana for making ghosts to kill. gank around 6 with your ult if you only get 1 out of 2 o well just run back into jungle and keep going at it.

remember when you spawn on legion side you have a harder time trying to creep in the jungle helbourne is better to play tempest on.

P.S This little guide not much of a guide but I play like this when I play normal not em.


This post was edited by crazybloodlust on Aug 28 2010 11:53am