Carries don't get nulled with good support.

i need to be carried

We're talking pubs here, in competitive organized matchups, your team doesn't really need a carry but any pub game usually gets to the late game unless you're losing very bad and concede early

The dominate strategy for pubs is carry/turtle strat and win it mid-late game, just because gank strats/push strats work so poorly with pubs (Requires excellent communication/teamwork)

Always need a carry, it's just the difference between an int carry (generally decreasing the ability to carry by around 30 minutes) or an agi carry (who starts to excel at about 25-30 minutes and only gets better)

No you don't.. There are lineups that are gank orienated, there are lineups that are push orientated, most lineups these days include a carry; but go over to dota where the gank strats and push strats are more common and see teams without carries ending games in 20 minutes :-D

Will agree with you but mostly these line ups have a semi carry or something at least along the lines of Engineer or heroes with capability of sorta carrying

Engineer isn't a dota port...

Mart

But their role is to not semi carry, Engineer is an amazing pusher with his Tinker, he has a useful stun; and an amazing ult at any point of the game

Yeah that's what I said.

Their will not really be a game with no carries. Even in a pure push strat a carry hero is usually incorporated.



Yeah I am aware. Sorta comparable to tinkerer in the sense he has a tinker skill

But was just noting that in push strats you still use a carry.

This post was edited by FATALxRYAN on May 18 2010 06:12pm

semicarry only. A hard carry has no place in a full pushing strategy.

Mart