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#11
Apr 22 2010 12:53am
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It's the exact same in dota.
backdooring in pubs only means that is it bm to push any tower without your lane being with you.

BUT if you have already pushed INSIDE their base with one lane and that lane is wreaking the rest of the little towers
you can then go to the other side of the base and destroy it.

That is what Ryan clearly doesn't understand


o i c

idk thats just what i was told that bding meant just rushing the shrine lol

i played dota like once in my life and had no idea what i was doing so yeh =/
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#12
Apr 22 2010 12:56am
Not backdooring.. obv you would have been bitched at otherwise you wouldnt of posted...
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Apr 22 2010 12:57am
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Me and a buddy were playing a 2V2, we pushed a lane and took out the racks, with our creeps, then took out the other racks without pushing in that lane.

Is that backdooring? Considering this rule from DotA -

4.2 You have to enter the base with creeps but they dont have to be in the same line as you. As soon as creeps enters the base, the complete base is allowed to be destroyed.
As long as there were creeps in base when you entered, you are allowed to keep attacking even if they die. If you leave the base at this moment you need to have new creeps in the next attack.

Can someone clarify this?


You may push your lane as long as the creeps are in the base, you may not switch lanes and take down another racks.

This is what you did.

You back doored in a friendly 2v2 no stats game.

I take the game too seriously? The pot calls the kettle black sir.
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Apr 22 2010 12:58am
Quote (Avid @ Apr 21 2010 10:50pm)
It's the exact same in dota.
backdooring in pubs only means that is it bm to push any tower without your lane being with you.

BUT if you have already pushed INSIDE their base with one lane and that lane is wreaking the rest of the little towers
you can then go to the other side of the base and destroy it.

That is what Ryan clearly doesn't understand


No, you can only switch lanes if the creeps are killed, which they were not.

My creeps were attacking your bottom tower and instead of killing them you killed my racks when I had no creeps or anything to defend, thus back dooring.

Anyone who disagrees does not know what back dooring is.

PS: Sorry for font size, need message across ;)

This post was edited by FATALxRYAN on Apr 22 2010 12:59am
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Apr 22 2010 01:00am
Quote (Godly @ Apr 22 2010 02:53am)
o i c

idk thats just what i was told that bding meant just rushing the shrine lol

i played dota like once in my life and had no idea what i was doing so yeh =/


:P
I need to upload a replay and show you what me and Jeremy (WorldsFamous) did.

Zephyr and Hammer Storm rushed our base and was fucking up our World Tree
We killed Hammer Storm but our tree was half way destroyed (While doing this creeps were pushing top lane)
Zephyr managed to kill me 2 Times and I bought back twice in a row to finally kill him.
He got our World Tree down to 93 life. Meanwhile we just got mega creeps now cause of that top lane
I rushed down to their base, Jeremy stayed back for hammer storm cause hammer storm bought back and tried to 1-2hit the tower
I destroy their two towers then start attacking their main base Jeremy then uses everything on panda to keep hammer storm stunned for like 10seconds lmao
and I took out their base and won

p.s I'm not reading this over so idk if it makes any sense but it was fucking epic.
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Apr 22 2010 01:02am
Quote (Avid @ Apr 21 2010 11:00pm)
:P
I need to upload a replay and show you what me and Jeremy (WorldsFamous) did.

Zephyr and Hammer Storm rushed our base and was fucking up our World Tree
We killed Hammer Storm but our tree was half way destroyed (While doing this creeps were pushing top lane)
Zephyr managed to kill me 2 Times and I bought back twice in a row to finally kill him.
He got our World Tree down to 93 life. Meanwhile we just got mega creeps now cause of that top lane
I rushed down to their base, Jeremy stayed back for hammer storm cause hammer storm bought back and tried to 1-2hit the tower
I destroy their two towers then start attacking their main base Jeremy then uses everything on panda to keep hammer storm stunned for like 10seconds lmao
and I took out their base and won

p.s I'm not reading this over so idk if it makes any sense but it was fucking epic.


I wouldn't read it if I knew I was wrong either -_-

The truth hurts.

You care so much about beating Cam and I that you resorted to back dooring our base to get mega creeps...

Kind of pathetic, but I understand you wanted the "ego boost"
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#17
Apr 22 2010 01:02am
Quote (FATALxRYAN @ Apr 22 2010 02:57am)
You may push your lane as long as the creeps are in the base, you may not switch lanes and take down another racks.

This is what you did.

You back doored in a friendly 2v2 no stats game.

I take the game too seriously? The pot calls the kettle black sir.


Quote (FATALxRYAN @ Apr 22 2010 02:58am)
No, you can only switch lanes if the creeps are killed, which they were not.

My creeps were attacking your bottom tower and instead of killing them you killed my racks when I had no creeps or anything to defend, thus back dooring.

Anyone who disagrees does not know what back dooring is.

PS: Sorry for font size, need message across ;)


Not reading any of this cause it just seems like you're raging..
I've already proven both here and in the HoN forums that it is not backdooring.
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Apr 22 2010 01:03am
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Not reading any of this cause it just seems like you're raging..
I've already proven both here and in the HoN forums that it is not backdooring.


Backdooring: the situation that can occur when a user controlled unit bypasses the creep/mob wave and heads straight to a tower, barracks, or other specialized building inside of a base and attacks it.

This is what you did, passed a creep wave and took our racks.

Quit QQin son.

PS: I am far from raging haha. I find it hilarious that you and Jeremy had to BM to beat me and Cam haahahha!

This post was edited by FATALxRYAN on Apr 22 2010 01:04am
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#19
Apr 22 2010 01:05am
From HoN Gamer Article:

Let’s start with the basics. What is backdooring? Backdooring is when you bypass your creep wave and attack a tower or barracks. Why is this considered bad to old DotA players (and 50% of the HoN community)? It’s considered a “cheap tactic” based on a desperation to win. If you have to BD then you weren’t going to win in the first place. BDing is your last resort. A cheap, disrespectful resort.

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#20
Apr 22 2010 01:05am
Quote (FATALxRYAN @ Apr 22 2010 03:03am)
Backdooring:  the situation that can occur when a user controlled unit bypasses the creep/mob wave and heads straight to a tower, barracks, or other specialized building inside of a base and attacks it.

This is what you did, passed a creep wave and took our racks.

Quit QQin son.


" You have to enter the base with creeps but they dont have to be in the same line as you. As soon as creeps enters the base, the complete base is allowed to be destroyed.
As long as there were creeps in base when you entered, you are allowed to keep attacking even if they die. If you leave the base at this moment you need to have new creeps in the next attack. "

If we are already in your base with one lane we are free to do whatever we want.

and you're telling me to stop crying yet you raged quit both hon and vent without letting anyone explain.
GZ. I was just proving a point
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