small sons&friends moving up to next level
clan is growing now a bit and we did 2xgames on trilane and we won em

so anyway i haz some questions and i'd like some tips and whatnot

1-what r best combos for trilanes
2-what should solo/mid lane be like
3-if we get outpicked and can't handle their trilane how do we react
4-what do we do if we run a trilane vs their solo, duke it out and try to outfarm or go port
5-what should support/roam do if they got wards and fall back when they try to gank
6-also iso opinions on top heroe picks and what counters them best

i know the basics, ppl should carry tps and help out have a general map awarness and be ready to react when ppl get jumped
also carries should try to keep farm as much as they can where they can and only help out if other team pushes as 5

all tips r welcome and i'll appreciate pros or high rated players experienced in trilanes posting their thoughts here as well
(dude, undead, smack etc....)

small sons&friends moving up to next level
clan is growing now a bit and we did 2xgames on trilane and we won em

so anyway i haz some questions and i'd like some tips and whatnot

1-what r best combos for trilanes
<- u cant rly say that becuz of other team's bans ur bans etcs..
usually something like 1 support init (like myr, andro, etcs)
1 str stunner (hammer,behe,magmus)
1 RICER (like any range carry or mali etcs, like valk/ppm/cd...)

2-what should solo/mid lane be like
depending on what u are good at..
is your team going for charging? hag/dr
some pushing? polly
sidelane wise, anyone who can survive 3vs 1, or own 1v1 or abandon 3vs1 go to forest
like pr/slither/bubbles/valk/hb/...etcs
3-if we get outpicked and can't handle their trilane how do we react
u can do following things
if ur carry has great escape and can run away from 3v1, abandon ur lane and go gank mid/bot (assuming tri was top)
if ur carry has no great escape, just look for opportunity
other team knows that their tri is winning/stronger and their support(s) will leave to gank mid, this is the opportunity you cease, kill their trilane carry

4-what do we do if we run a trilane vs their solo, duke it out and try to outfarm or go port
if their solo is someone u think u can kill, go to the side, hide, and init, kill
if not, do some stacking pulling or gank mid come back gank the trilane etcs

5-what should support/roam do if they got wards and fall back when they try to gank
not sure what u mean
counter wards them.. so they can't see u guys trying to gank/and run

6-also iso opinions on top heroe picks and what counters them best
this is really hard to say i mean lets say their trilane is very charging team
something along
hammer/magmus
valkyrie
myr

then u know u most likely won't win against their trilane
u counter pick them by going defensive trilane
like
ppm
dsham/accurse/
stunner

i know the basics, ppl should carry tps and help out have a general map awarness and be ready to react when ppl get jumped
also carries should try to keep farm as much as they can where they can and only help out if other team pushes as 5

all tips r welcome and i'll appreciate pros or high rated players experienced in trilanes posting their thoughts here as well
(dude, undead, smack etc....


you need to recognize their picks and your picks
what are you trying to do?
push team? pick it so that u have some mid/early game presense, not full out push team
also, did u ban their anti push heroes? like whoever that can stall the pushing by clearing the creeps?
behe, ss etcs

the other team is going for armor team
like
ss,dsham,kraken(pesti) andro etcs
then u counter by picking some PR and pick up sol's bulwork

unless the skill diff is huge, team picks are very important..

magmus=win

this is a lot of unreadable text by shitty posters

I would read this and give you advice, but small sons is so unfunny now because of you, so I don't feel like it.

This post was edited by Ectasy on Aug 3 2011 10:18am

@lkh5650

thx for a detailed explanation, makes sense, for push i do prefer polly and rice i guess puppet is best
also whats a viable pick vs a solo or mid pr?
i won mid pretty good vs a pr yday but normally a decent player with constant denies he shud be a pain to deal with



yes except most people cant play a good mag/behe



was expecting something like this



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yeah plague solo is only how i remember it in dota
i find he's a little similar to TB, hard to deal with when he can blow your face off every contagion cooldown and have a seemingly endless mana pool

imo one of the better solo heroes, you could always mass courier HP pot and try to play it to a standard lane, but he's not really a hero that has a particular counter like witch slayer is to soul healer

This post was edited by dude150 on Aug 3 2011 10:38am

polly is great mid hero actually, if u can ward trap nicely, u can most of the time gank someone and walk away with a kill, (morph, ward trap, nuke, hold)
but as for ppm, he is great ricer but even if u get 450~500 gpm, u can lose with ppm (as it was shown i think @ SK vs MSI, ppm had 500+ gpm, close to 600, but trixi? i think his pebbles just did blink-sheep-combo, and he was useless)
ricing is great but u also need to participate well in fights zz
sry idn what i am trying to say

anyway
for facing pr mid, its tough cuz pr is one of the best solo in this game, due to his deny, good nuke, and imba base speed (320, 370 with simple boots)...
the only thing u can do is i guess doing rune control, (playing hag?) or bottle ferry.