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Jul 14 2011 12:45am
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Why do I ask dumb questions?

This post was edited by xDooMx on Jul 14 2011 12:53am
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Jul 14 2011 01:16am
Y not go to a practice game try it each way....not like there's a 100 ways to combo it...
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Jul 14 2011 01:46am
Quote (XsnowBoarderFL @ Jul 14 2011 12:16am)
Y not go to a practice game try it each way....not like there's  a 100 ways to combo it...


Haha banned right now. Just doing some math right now on vestments vs bracer, the way I have it figured out 1 bracer is better on a hero with 750+ life than a vestment vs pebs.
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Jul 14 2011 02:21am
combo, stun>toss
bracer vs vestment well basically the more hp you have without bracer the more you'll get with the vestment

i guess there you need to go a bit further into it with the math and all if you really wanna see when what is best of those 2
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Quote (UndeadGad @ Jul 14 2011 01:21am)
combo, stun>toss
bracer vs vestment well basically the more hp you have without bracer the more you'll get with the vestment

i guess there you need to go a bit further into it with the math and all if you really wanna see when what is best of those 2


Lvl 8 pebs does 960 magic damage, reduced to 721.92 with hero m/a and 508.5 with vestments (213.12 difference). Including 1 auto attack he then does 1050 inital, 846.92 reduced and 633.8 with vesments. Meaning a hero with 750+ life will benefit more from a bracer than a vesments vs this combo due to bracers giving you 96 life per.

That is assuming zero physical armor reduction however and you went the better 2/3/0/1 skill build for more damage.

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Jul 14 2011 05:52am
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reduced to 721.92 with hero m/a and 508.5 with vestments (213.12 difference)


I'm pretty sure that this is wrong.
isn't it like 25% base resist and 35% with vestments? at least vestments doesn't bump magic resist to 48% for sure
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Jul 14 2011 06:36am
Quote (xDooMx @ Jul 14 2011 12:46am)
Haha banned right now. Just doing some math right now on vestments vs bracer, the way I have it figured out 1 bracer is better on a hero with 750+ life than a vestment vs pebs.


give details as to why you got banned
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Jul 14 2011 12:48pm
Quote (xDooMx @ Jul 14 2011 01:34am)
Lvl 8 pebs does 960 magic damage, reduced to 721.92 with hero m/a and 508.5 with vestments (213.12 difference). Including 1 auto attack he then does 1050 inital, 846.92 reduced and 633.8 with vesments. Meaning a hero with 750+ life will benefit more from a bracer than a vesments vs this combo due to bracers giving you 96 life per.

That is assuming zero physical armor reduction however and you went the better 2/3/0/1 skill build for more damage.



what? why would a hero with more than 750 life benefit more from bracer than vestments
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Jul 14 2011 02:58pm
Quote (The_Darkness_II @ Jul 14 2011 04:52am)
I'm pretty sure that this is wrong.
isn't it like 25% base resist and 35% with vestments? at least vestments doesn't bump magic resist to 48% for sure


Well straight from hon wiki base hero magic armor is 5.5 which = 24.8% reduction, so 1 m/a = 4.5ish magic armor reduction so 5.5 + 5(vestments) = 10.5 magic armor which is 10.5x 4.5= without rounding errors 47-48%.

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what? why would a hero with more than 750 life benefit more from bracer than vestments


And because you'll receive the + other stats and life rep from it. Easy item to making with starting items if you took some stats stuff, if not you might be paying more for it then whats the point. This is only vs pebs not including any other magic damage you might be taking from other players.
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Jul 14 2011 03:38pm
phys/magic resistance isn't linear, check the % in practice game if u want to know the real one
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