ive been trying to get a really fast pkey, and im wondering whats a pretty good time for one and how i would go about doing it, i generally go full jungle and get it around 10-12 minutes, 12 minutes if bot pulls me out for a gank that doesnt happen for various reasons

Max elementals, then try and push a tower with them after u clear jungle

That's not what he asked. o.O

assuming you buy both a courier and wards, and you DO NOT leave the jungle (meaning from creep camp to creep camp nonstop), having the gold for it at 7 mins is standard, and it should be on the 6:xx if you've only bought wards or courier

factor in other circumstances like people blocking spawns, having to gank, wasting time by dodging ganks, being ganked, etc. and then it's usually much later (unless the gank kills go to you)

those are my times, anyways, and i usually lose an unsplit elemental to a brock lesnar catman or something before rank 3 elemental, so people could probably do it much faster

This post was edited by dude150 on Aug 23 2010 09:55pm

anyway you could show me how its done that fast? or just show me which spawns to go to and stuff of that nature

have you tried stacking creeps with an elemental while you creep others

not until i already have portal key, since it's pretty difficult to clear camps when your elementals die in 3 hits
if it's 10+ minutes? yes

that's why i like to play legionnaire
stack 2-3 camps, rally attack points to each, watch team fight for 1.5 mins, repeat, highest level in game, eznp, gg kids, etc, etc

edit: though i normally don't play tempest, when i do, i rarely stack because i'm such a lazy fuck
it's good to do all the time with ophelia and whispering helm'd creeps, however



i just fraps'd a run and i'm such a nice guy/have no life that i'll render it and upload to a private youtube video and post it here in a few hours

This post was edited by dude150 on Aug 23 2010 11:36pm

ty, is it good to creep stack in the beginning if only temp is going to be jungling cuz he doesnt really have an aoe so the stacked creeps would just rape the shit out of his elementals?

i've never seen or heard of stacking early with tempest
it's definitely doable on the light camp, but with the chances of spawning mass magic immunes (wildhunters?) and minotaurs on the mediums (ogres would be best imo), it makes those risky, and stacking hard creep camps early is obviously a bad idea imo

there we go
the quality is absolute TRASH, presumably due to the fact that i play on 1440x900 resolution, and i have to morph it to a 4:3 ratio

but anyways, i had 7:20 for 2150 gold
i fucked up many times:
i lost that one unsplit elemental to the wild hunters which cost some time
lost mana potion (the wild hunter aggro raped a potion), and as you can see the last 100 or so gold took WAY longer than it should have
did not invest 90g into one set of runes of blight to make it not necessary to waste precious seconds of time/elemental life on walking all around the pull-able creep camp (this one actually makes a really huge difference)


somebody who enjoys playing tempest/plays tempest regularly could probably do one by 6:00 or easily low 6:xx with the same circumstances (no ganks/being ganked/towers/etc)


so i'm eating my own words by saying 7 mins is standard and giving you a 7:20 run, but y'know, pretend i wasn't bad, and this was easily a 7 min run

This post was edited by dude150 on Aug 24 2010 03:12am