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Jul 20 2012 07:15pm
My brother lost faith, he is 13, and I understand that it is a "growing" phase, but for some reason

I don't think he is going to bounce back. We have been raised as a catholic family, not a strict one though

and we would go to church 1-2 times a month. Not that often, but my mothers work would get in the way.

Anyways, he was 12 when he said he didn't believe anymore, and he told my mother that

He stopped believing after he read this book about how religion is bad, and how it corrupts

And it made references to steve jobs and our "ww3" and how religion was the source of all wars.

My father whom I don't live with anymore is a violent atheist. My brothers have not seen his rage yet, but I have

And he can be rather persuasive. My mother and I don't force religion on to my brothers, but my father slightly does

And he tries to manipulate my brother to be exactly what he wanted me to be an atheist, martial artist, guitar player.

And he wins my brothers over by taking them out to eat and buying them gifts, he sees them every other week

And we are pretty sure that my father has fed those beliefs in my brothers head.

My mother is a devout catholic, but I don't understand her reason for not telling my brother

That he has a twisted vision of religion... And I'm honestly scared.


Will my brother find peace with our family's religion eventually?
Jul 21 2012 03:02pm
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Jul 21 2012 07:41pm
Quote (rustypwner @ Jul 21 2012 05:02pm)
it is clear that this is not a issue of religion at all, its just to bad that creationists like yourself tend to believe that the cause of a person being violent is dictated by their beliefs, example: your father being violent has nothing to do with him being atheist. Trust me for every violent atheist there is at least 1 violent christian. instead of sticking the blame on a totally NON violent alternative to creationism, you should probably try and find out why your father is really violent and trying to sabotage your family... congrats to your brother for following his own stride and figuring things out for himself. keep in mind there is more than just 1 book out there (bible)..... maybe you should expand your mind as well? people havent come this far in the world by being close minded


No, like I don't think you understand what I'm comming from. Or maybe I wasn't clear enough.

First, I am not a creationist, And I do not interpret the bible as others normally do.
And I never said that my fathers beliefs control his actions, half of my family is atheist.
I said atheist to show his beliefs, and to show the pattern and where my brother got the idea from, and
I noted violent to show the type of person he is.

And yes my father is trying to stabotage my family. With threating notes towards me my mother and her family,
To making me starve for 2 days when I was waiting for my mother to pick me up from his house and these issues have been dealt with by the law,
But he keeps on making attacks and breaking his restraining order, and doing obsene hand gestures towards me in my own driveway.


I have no problem being open minded, and of my brother becomes an atheist, I jut want it to come from HIM not his father.
Mind you i don't appreciate you some what calling me close minded when you don't know me.


This post was edited by Kath on Jul 21 2012 07:53pm
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Jul 22 2012 01:09am
It is your brother's journey. Let him take it and just be there for support if he asks you for it.
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Jul 22 2012 04:35am
The best thing you can do is pray for him. No matter how bad of a situation god can fix it and he will give you answers.
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Jul 26 2012 12:06am
Quote (Kath @ Jul 20 2012 09:15pm)
Will my brother find peace with our family's religion eventually?


What is more important, for him to find peace with that or for him to find peace with God and become His friend?

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Jul 26 2012 06:58am
Don't be concerned with religion. He won't be saved by it, he will be saved the God's grace through faith.

God's favor is always open to anyone who calls on him. But whether you choose to have the faith him and believe that he did die for us and raise again for our sins, sickness, breaking the devils power over us.

He can't be saved by works, But by faith in God.
Therefore don't be concern with whether he will find peace in religion, But find God's favor in his life.

Christianity isn't a religion, it's a family. The Kingdom of God isn't religion, it's a Godly government.
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Jul 27 2012 11:18am
Perhaps something has happened in his life that has made him feel this way. It could also be that he's at one of the toughest points for a boy his age, developmentally. He may just be angry, not know how to direct it.

As for the religious part of it, I would say he's probably a bit young to have totally made up his mind on what to believe in. I think this is a matter for each man or woman to sort out on their own. As his sister you just need to be there to answer any questions he has, or to give him the support he may need. 13 is a tough age for a lot of kids.
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