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Jan 20 2012 08:37am
So I've been asked "What if my sins are not forgiven? What if my sins were so bad that I can't be forgiven?"
( If you have not read the 5 steps to salvation, These may help with the understanding of this.) Five Steps to Salvation


We have to truly believe in our hearts that what we did was wrong.
Yes, we all fall short of the glory of God, but we must do our absolute best to live a Sin free life once we are in the Body of Christ.

I put together some verses showing that all sins are forgiven (There are obviously many more, but I like these few):

1 John 1:8-9 -If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

Romans 8:1 - Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Ephesians 1:7 - In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace

Acts 3:19 - Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord

Matthew 26:28 - This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins




Next I would like to address the "unpardonable sin".

Matthew 12:31-32 - And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Mark 3:22-30 - 22 And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, “He is possessed by Beelzebul! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons.” 23 So Jesus called them over to him and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. 27 In fact, no one can enter a strong man’s house without first tying him up. Then he can plunder the strong man’s house. 28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.” 30 He said this because they were saying, “He has an impure spirit.”



The Unforgivable sin, Is permanently Rejecting Christ. In these Scriptures, How they spoke against the Holy Spirit was by denouncing him and saying that he was Not Jesus Christ the Son of God, but that he was Satan himself.
They refused to believe,even after so much evidence, that he was the Son of God.

"Anyone who seeks Jesus' forgiveness certainly has not committed the unforgivable sin" - Larry Richards






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Jan 25 2012 01:16am
if ur sins arent forgiven then ur damned to hell for eternity

- the bible.
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Jan 25 2012 02:28am
Quote (Pious @ 20 Jan 2012 07:37)
So I've been asked "What if my sins are not forgiven? What if my sins were so bad that I can't be forgiven?"
( If you have not read the 5 steps to salvation, These may help with the understanding of this.) Five Steps to Salvation


We have to truly believe in our hearts that what we did was wrong.
Yes, we all fall short of the glory of God, but we must do our absolute best to live a Sin free life once we are in the Body of Christ.

I put together some verses showing that all sins are forgiven (There are obviously many more, but I like these few):

1 John 1:8-9 -If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

Romans 8:1 - Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Ephesians 1:7 - In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace

Acts 3:19 - Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord

Matthew 26:28 - This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins




Next I would like to address the "unpardonable sin".

Matthew 12:31-32 - And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Mark 3:22-30 -  22 And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, “He is possessed by Beelzebul! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons.” 23 So Jesus called them over to him and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. 27 In fact, no one can enter a strong man’s house without first tying him up. Then he can plunder the strong man’s house. 28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.” 30 He said this because they were saying, “He has an impure spirit.”



The Unforgivable sin, Is permanently Rejecting Christ. In these Scriptures, How they spoke against the Holy Spirit was by denouncing him and saying that he was Not Jesus Christ the Son of God, but that he was Satan himself.
They refused to believe,even after so much evidence, that he was the Son of God.

"Anyone who seeks Jesus' forgiveness certainly has not committed the unforgivable sin" - Larry Richards






I took this off my Forum I run for Bible studies ( I am not allowed to post the link) But if you're interested in avidly learning and studying with us. PM me.


I am not really getting your question :P

ReNerd, please only post here if you have something nice to say, this is a Christian Fellowship forum man, your post is almost borderline just spam I think, try to keep it down next time okay?


Also, to Regards to Pious, take a look here:
http://www.minuteswithmessiah.com/question/blasphemy.html


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Let us look at the whole context. Jesus had healed a man with a demon. Some had said (probably in their own thoughts and not out loud) that Jesus healed by the power of Satan. "Knowing their thoughts," Jesus responded with the line most often attributed to President Lincoln, "a house divided against itself can not stand." In other words, if Satan cast out demons he would be working against himself, which is not logical. Then he went into the discussion of sins that will not be forgiven. Finally, he says that we will be judged on the words we speak. He is not accusing his accusers of blasphemy; he is warning them that they are getting close to it.




This sums it up, Only god will Judge you when we will meet him in Heaven. Meh I am really sorry, I don't know that much yet about your question or A answer that you probably want to hear, but all I know is that when you "Really" become a Christian and give your life to god, I believe most majority of them that (Are True Christians) will really never commit True Blashphemy? I mean I am not really sure, but I would hate to see my fellow brothers go that direction.


To sum it up, I think Matthew 12:31-32 is really to powerful for man to even comprehend, we do not know who is going to hell or not, only God can judge, now I feel like a fool writing this Post to you, but it's whatever, I clearly don't know my stuff I guess, but I just wanted to see if I could plant a seed and maybe help you? I mean blashpemy is really bad and there's consequences for every action I think and that's just a decision you're going to have to live by with the rest of your life, if you choose that path...

Dunno what to else to say really I feel bad I cant help you anymore, This is also a good question/discussion I will ask my pastor about to hence I am interested in it to as in why the bible would say that, but then also say all sins are forgotten, seems weird.

But then again, bible says to gash out your eye if you commit sexual sin, but does god mean it literally? I don't think so, but some might think he does (Mostly atheists) Just so they can bash the bible more, but the bible is really a complex book IMO and as you can see I need to do some More reading, :(

God bless pm me if you want to talk some more, If you go to the Prayer List on the sticky topics, those people know Christ prob more then me so it's always good to pm them I think.

Good luck mate
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Jan 25 2012 02:40am
Well it would make sense. If I was a perfect being and I couldn't create perfect things I'd rage and blame it away from me as much as I could too.
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Jan 25 2012 10:03am
Quote (bigbrd222 @ Jan 25 2012 01:40am)
Well it would make sense. If I was a perfect being and I couldn't create perfect things I'd rage and blame it away from me as much as I could too.


Man was created perfect.

It was his own choice that he defied God. Just like Lucifer.
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Jan 25 2012 11:44am


In all seriousness, if this is the case, we're all damned.
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Jan 25 2012 06:11pm
>sins
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Jan 25 2012 10:09pm
Quote (BringMatTheHorizon @ Jan 25 2012 10:44am)
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llwg0eEX681qg0c5yo1_400.jpg

In all seriousness, if this is the case, we're all damned.


Yes, we are all sinners & the wages of sin is death.

Hold that thought...

In fact, contemplate it until you decide if you want salvation or just to die in your sins.
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Jan 26 2012 11:35pm
Is that written in every bible version in the world?
Cause if not, then it's only applied to Christians and every other religions bible that says it.
Everyone else with a bible where that is not mentioned (at least that way), is safe ;p

Every bible version in the world is modified here and there to see fit the religion patterns it represents.
The original bible is written in Hebrew which is a language without punctuation and where 1 word means many different sentences and can have many different meanings.

Also the original bible has no religion and was written by many different intelligent people.
They would be called spiritualists if they were alive today and have videos on YouTube like mooji, eckard tollie or Mahareshi Mahesh yogi, etc.. Just this time not so focus on Jesus.

Jesus was a great man who overcome the world without traveling too far, he knew that he was god and could do what god does through his "spirit" (nowadays called universe consciousness), but his faith in the "spirit" made him change reality and miracles happen. He was also very naive and innocent but that was what strengthened his power/belief and therefore change/create reality. He could have gone much further although he was so naive he didn't know much more than follow his own beliefs towards his "father" (which is called consciousness)

God made us to his image, there's nothing we can't do that god can, there's no sins but the ones we feel guilty for, and we truly know them, we truly know when we do something wrong that breaks our dignity and most important our integrity, we should ask forgiveness for those and that way forgive ourselves for once have committed them/act that way..

If god is everything, then we are god, YOU are god.
God wouldn't be god without you, you are part of him.
He loves you.
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