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Aug 4 2011 09:02am
im just going to be blunt with it
is oral sex before marriage wrong?
please post scripture in your answer

thanks for help
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Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge. (Hebrews 13:4)


There are a lot of things in the bible about stuff like this but this is the easiest way to say Yes it is wrong without an argument.
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Quote (Magnet0 @ Aug 4 2011 11:02am)
im just going to be blunt with it
is oral sex before marriage wrong?
please post scripture in your answer

thanks for help


Hi Magnet.

"Is oral sex before marriage wrong (or any kind of sex before marriage)", the answer is: yes, it is wrong.


Here's why from scripture:

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Three Lies About Premarital Sex:

When Cindy met Rob, she knew that even though he attended church, he didn't share her convictions about premarital sex. Rob thought it was OK—and even good for dating couples to engage in—and Cindy believed it was wrong from a Christian perspective.

As their friendship progressed, Cindy and Rob's opposing viewpoints caused some hot debates. It also forced them both to take a second look at their convictions. As a result, Cindy developed a deeper understanding of truth, and Rob was forced to face the lies he'd always believed.

If you're like Cindy or Rob, and you've taken a stand for (or against) premarital sex, but you're not sure why, here are some things to consider.


#1: Scripture is Outdated, Right?

Like many singles, Rob thinks the Scriptures on sexual purity are outdated and archaic. "Those parts of the Bible aren't relevant to today," he told Cindy. "After all, when the Scriptures were written, the people during that time got married when they were teens; so they didn't have to struggle with sexual temptation like we do now."

In response to Rob's argument, Cindy found Scriptures about sexual purity and showed them to him. When Cindy read 1 Corinthians 6:9, 2 Corinthians 12:21, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4 and Deuteronomy 22:13-28, all which condemn sex before marriage, she asked Rob, "Are these Scriptures relevant to today?" "Nope," Rob responded.

"Do you have a pair of scissors?" Cindy asked.

"Why?

"Because I think we should cut those Scriptures out. After all, if they're not true because people can't control their desires, why not completely eliminate them? After all, we can just pick and choose the parts of Scripture that we want to believe on sexual purity, right? Give me your scissors," she said.

"You're crazy," Rob responded.

Crazy or not, Cindy had made her point—there are holes in Rob's it's-not-true-because-people-can't-control-their-desires theology. Why? Because, if his beliefs were based on truth, they would stand up in every circumstance, but they don't.

For example, if sex before marriage is okay because people supposedly can't control themselves, then it must be okay to engage in pornography, too, right? After all, the temptation to watch and participate in porn abounds like it didn't in Bible times.

Not surprisingly, when Cindy asked Rob if it was OK to engage in pornography, his theology changed. "Pornography isn't okay because it's damaging to the people who are doing it, and it's not very Christian."

Why does Rob have a schizophrenic view of purity and of the Bible's commandments?

Additionally, if scriptures in the Bible became untrue because people can't control their desires, then we'd also have to cut out the commandments on stealing, lying, cheating and having affairs.

Sure enough, there are holes in Rob's sex-before-marriage theology, just like there would be holes in his Bible if Cindy cut it up.


#2: Doesn't Sex Produce Intimacy?

During their discussions about premarital sex, Rob insisted that it was good to engage in sex with a dating partner because "it brings you closer."

Cindy believes that this is true, and not true. On one hand, the Bible says that sex causes "two people to become one." Therefore, it's more than just a physical act, it's also a spiritual encounter (Mark 10:6-9).

Additionally, Dr. Patricia Love, the author of The Truth About Love, writes that a feeling of intimacy is created by a "chemical cocktail" that is produced in the brain during sex and stays with each person for up to 24 hours after intercourse. Perhaps this physiological bonding is what Rob was referring to.

On the flip side, having sex is no guarantee that the deep emotional intimacy that everyone longs for will develop.

Alice Fryling, in an article titled, Why Wait for Sex? writes:

    "Genital sex is an expression of intimacy, not the means to intimacy. True intimacy springs from verbal and emotional communion. True intimacy is built on a commitment to honesty, love and freedom. True intimacy is not primarily a sexual encounter. Intimacy, in fact, has almost nothing to do with our sex organs. A prostitute may expose her body, but her relationships are hardly intimate."

Some experts even report that premarital sex short circuits the emotional bonding process. Donald Joy, a writer for Christianity Today, sited a study of 100,000 women that linked "early sexual experience with dissatisfaction in their present marriages, unhappiness with the level of sexual intimacy and the prevalence of low self-esteem."

So what does this mean? If Rob tries to convince Cindy, or any woman, that sex will actually help their relationship, she might want to think again before consenting. While premarital sex does produce a short-lived chemical cocktail in the brain, there is no guarantee that it will produce long-term emotional closeness or relational satisfaction.


#3: Can't Sex Help You Determine Compatibility?

Rob told Cindy he felt it was unreasonable to expect him to abstain from sex before marriage because no one would buy a car without test driving it; so he couldn't imagine committing to marriage without taking a "sex test drive."

When Cindy suggested to Rob that his "test drive" mentality could lead him to compare his wife's sexual performance with his other partners, he denied it. "No, I wouldn't," he adamantly said.

However, his logic is faulty. Here's why: If it was true that Rob wouldn't struggle with comparison, why would he need to "test drive" anything? After all, if he'd never had multiple partners, he would automatically think his wife the best. For example, the man who hasn't ever seen or driven more than one car doesn't know what other cars are like; therefore he would be satisfied with his automobile.

Partners can also feel threatened if they think their mate could be comparing them with previous partners.

When Cindy randomly asked 10 women at work if they would be worried that their husband was comparing them if he'd had intercourse with multiple women before marriage, 80 percent of them said yes.

This provides a strong argument to abstain from sex before marriage to protect the emotional safety that your spouse will need to feel in marriage.


Hope and Restoration After Premarital Sex

Perhaps you're asking, "What if, like Rob, I'm guilty of sexual sin?"

The first thing to remember is that no sexual sin is beyond God's forgiveness. Thankfully, He doesn't withhold forgiveness or grace from those who ask for it.
I John 1:9 promises that if you confess your sins, that He is faithful to forgive and to cleanse you from all unrighteousness. Note: This includes all sin, and does not exclude sexual sin. Psalm 103: 12 also promises, "As far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions [sins] from us."

In addition to forgiveness, God wants you to embrace His grace that will help you move forward in life and embrace the promises He has for you with joy. In spite of your choices, God wants to bring you relational fulfillment.


You can find this article here: http://www.focusonthefamily.com/marriage/preparing_for_marriage/why_wait_for_sex/three_lies_about_premarital_sex.aspx

There are also a lot of other helpful questions and answers that are about this kind of thing if you want to check them out on focusonthefamily's website as well. Hope I have helped you out, if you have anymore questions, feel free to post them or PM me. :)

This post was edited by Gold_Llama on Aug 4 2011 12:45pm
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Aug 4 2011 12:51pm
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 warns us, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the kingdom of God."

And 1 Corinthians 6:13b, 18 tells us, "Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without (outside) the body; but he that commiteth fornication sinneth against his own body."
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Aug 4 2011 02:52pm
i thought fornication was sex without marriage
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Quote (Magnet0 @ Aug 4 2011 04:52pm)
i thought fornication was sex without marriage


God is against having any kind of sexual relationship outside of marriage.

That includes: fornication, adultery, lust, lewdness, "doin' it", "foolin' around", "a fling", one-night stands, ect.
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Aug 5 2011 12:41am
Quote (Magnet0 @ Aug 4 2011 08:02am)
im just going to be blunt with it
is oral sex before marriage wrong?
please post scripture in your answer

thanks for help


Yes I believe it is.

I believe hugging and giving a kiss on the cheeck is the farthest I will go when I get a girlfriend. I Dont want to be tempted or get sexual desires if we go to far either. I will tell her straight up how I feel and tell her that I am going to beable to hold hands/kiss on cheeck, nothing more.. Trust me, wait until you get Married, it will be alot of fun.
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Quote (HighschoolTurd @ Aug 5 2011 02:41am)
Yes I believe it is.

I believe hugging and giving a kiss on the cheeck is the farthest I will go when I get a girlfriend.  I Dont want to be tempted or get sexual desires if we go to far either.  I will tell her straight up how I feel and tell her that I am going to beable to hold hands/kiss on cheeck, nothing more.. Trust me, wait until you get Married, it will be alot of fun.


Yep, and the greatest gift you could ever give your spouse when you get married is your Virginity. :rolleyes:
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Yep, and the greatest gift you could ever give your spouse when you get married is your Virginity. :rolleyes:


Thanks for agreeing, I love to listen to people that agree. When I was a kid though like 15. I got saved when I was 15 1/2, but like around 17years old, I had the same question as the OP and I knew that it was bad if I ever did anything with a girl, I was tempted so many times man... IT was horrible, but praying and asking him to help you will work trust me. I am 19 now, just graduated highschool, going to college for baseball, Have not been tempted with any girls i've seen. And that's what I think is what god wants, just to be friends with that girl until you both are ready to get married, then you can do what the bible tells you can do once your married.

The problem is, when people get into trouble doing this stuff when there young or not "married" it will feel really good for awhile but it's NOT worth it. It will end up like a addiction, and you will continue to want to do stuff with your girl over and over again, soon maybe your girl will even tell you to stop/etc, might get in verbal fight/etc. Thats also another reason why god wants us to be equally yoked, (To find another christian girl too). But yeah it will end up like a addiction and it will ruin your sexual life in the future, trust me don't do it. (I havn't but I have been tempted plenty of times) and my pastor/etc tells me it will ruin your sexual life because he did it when he was younger, so I do believe him.

Also, I changed the group of friends, who I "hung out" with so I don't get tempted anymore. Try this too.

God bless all

Time for me to go to sleep lol

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What people aren't telling you is that marriage does not have to be a piece of paper saying you and x is married. Marriage is a commitment with you, said woman, and God. Show me one verse where it says I have to go to a church and have a preacher tell me were married.

If you and a female love each other and you are ready to marry her. Have sex. Because in Gods eyes, you are married.

But, you are not to have sex for pleasure only.

And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.s (Genesis 38:8-10 KJV)

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