Quote (UncleMuscles @ Jun 13 2011 07:12pm)

I find it more and more, people believing there isnt a hell....

it is clearly stated in the bible and Jesus talks about it numerous times....  so what is this " theory " that there is no hell?

if there wasnt a hell, then we would be able to do whatever we want and there would be zero consequences.... we could just kill ourselves and go to heaven....

I truly believe this is a  lie from satan.... hes decieving so many people to think that  HE isnt real and that HELL isnt real....  so that more and more people will fall into sin... hes just sitting back and laughing!

I am a firm believer in heaven and hell.  You will be judged!  but I do not fear hell! because i know my destination after this life! This world is not my home!

What are your thoughts, and if you believe there isnt a hell, try and prove it.

Quote (Heights @ Jun 13 2011 07:24pm)

the real lie from Satan is that God is cruel and tortures people for an eternity

Quote (Torm1 @ 14 Jun 2011 14:51)

Are you a Christian?

What you're preaching isn't part of classical Christianity, but more of a new-age agenda.

Quote (Heights @ 21 May 2011 22:41)

"hell" is the grave, "the world of the dead", "the unseen place", not a literal place of eternal torture.

"This is the evil in everything that happens under the sun: The same destiny overtakes all. The hearts of men, moreover, are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live, and afterwards they join the dead."

"For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten."

"Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the grave, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom."

-- Ecc 9:3, 5, 10 (niv)

The word translated 'the grave' is the SAME WORD that is translated 'hell' elsewhere in the Old Testament. The word is 'sheol' (Hebrew, "the world of the dead"). It occurs a total of 65 times in the Old Testament, and is translated "hell" 31 times in the KJV.

The Greek equivalent of 'Sheol' in the New Testament is 'Hades' (translated 'hell' in the KJV). It occurs a total of 10 times. (Peter's quotation of Psalm 16:10 in Acts 2:25-28 proves that 'Hades' is the same as 'Sheol'.)

There are 13 more instances of the word 'hell' in the New Testament. The Greek word 'Gehenna' is the root word for 12 of them; 11 of which are spoken by Jesus Christ, and one in James 3:6. 'Gehenna' literally means "valley of the sons of Hinnom" (or "valley of Ben Hinnom"). It is written about in the Old Testament, as a place of pagan sacrifice that later became a rubbish dump outside Jerusalem (see Jer 7:31, 32:35). It is the place where "their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched" (Isaiah 66:24).

Quote (Quoz @ Jun 14 2011 01:57pm)

Well, for starters I don't think there is a place that we commonly think of as hell (eternal suffering).

I believe that God created the universe, set the initial conditions, and let the rest play out.  As he created us from objects of this world, our bodies and our "souls" are for this world only.  I believe that through God, we are able to transcend from this world into a higher plane of existence to be one with God, whether that is in heaven, or whatever other form you wish for it to be.  For those that aren't saved, and are "damned to hell", our life simply ends when our physical life ends.  I believe references to hell are a metaphor for our "souls" being burned out from existence.

In short there is no hell in my view, people either join God or their life's come to and end when their physical bodies die.  As God created the universe, you either join him or cease to exist, because without God there is nothing.