Quote (Slowtoanger @ Apr 5 2011 03:33pm)

Why did God have to go down to stop them?

If you are thinking that God felt a threat from humanity, I think it's far from that. My interpretation is that God knew the potential downfall/struggle that would be even greater if all humankind could communicate as one. I can't help but to go back to Adam and Eve where Eve causes Adam to fall with her. If one person can cause a problem of that magnitude, imagine what kind of damage mankind could produce if they acted as one.

Who did he need help from?

If you're referring to verse 7 when the word, "us" is used, I believe it's a ultimate mimickery of what humans were saying in verse 3 & 4. This has to do with Hebrew language which I am not trained nor qualified to expand on.

And God being who he is, why wouldnt God just let them find out at some point they were going to run out of air?

If your child is about to fall off a cliff, would you save them or would you just say, "they will eventually find out about gravity?"

That's my take.

Quote (Wowzers @ Apr 5 2011 03:14pm)

That is a great interpretation my friend. I've heard other veiws but i guess it just comes down to opinion. What do u think about them using telekinesis?

Thanks bud

Quote (Slowtoanger @ Apr 5 2011 04:25pm)

I think you are trying to use the word, "telepathy" instead of "telekinesis" because I don't see how moving an object by mental power has anything to do with communication.

If you are talking about the how people talked in one language as telepathy, I would disagree because I don't see why the scripture would use the word, "language" if it really was not actual language and it says that Lord scattered them and even today, there are obvious proof of separation (different languages of different Nations).

Quote (Wowzers @ Apr 5 2011 03:17pm)

By the time im done with all my post on JSP people are prolly gonna think im nuts. But here i go.

The tower of Babel is one of the most interesting stories to me due to the fact people were so smart during that time.

In the story (Genesis 11) people around the world got together and decided to build a tower to the heavens.

In the Bible God says "Come let us go down and stop them". God is speaking with Jesus

My question is, why did God have to go down to stop them? Who did he need help from? And God being who he is, why wouldnt God just let them find out at some point they were going to run out of air? They were violating a command to not do that exact thing

My theory is that people at that time used telekinesis to communicate. ( I know old school Christians are probably going to think this is nuts ) And once God came down with his "angels" im assuming he took that gift away. Telepathy was already pointed out, maybe...

If you think about it we have a form of "telekinesis" today when we pray silently in our mind.

What are your thoughts?

-Trent

Quote (Slowtoanger @ Apr 5 2011 10:33pm)

Why did God have to go down to stop them?

If you are thinking that God felt a threat from humanity, I think it's far from that. My interpretation is that God knew the potential downfall/struggle that would be even greater if all humankind could communicate as one. I can't help but to go back to Adam and Eve where Eve causes Adam to fall with her. If one person can cause a problem of that magnitude, imagine what kind of damage mankind could produce if they acted as one.

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And God being who he is, why wouldnt God just let them find out at some point they were going to run out of air?

If your child is about to fall off a cliff, would you save them or would you just say, "they will eventually find out about gravity?"

That's my take.

Quote (MCS @ Apr 5 2011 06:15pm)

That makes absolutely no sense.  Just because we all speak the same language doesn't mean we're all connected and able to speak to each other.  The Adam and Eve example is completely devoid of rational thought.  1 person influencing another isn't anywhere near the same as what you're saying.




Again completely illogical.  It wouldn't be instant like falling off a cliff there would be a gradual decline in oxygen.  At some point they would decide hey, we can't breathe up here.

I'm not even going to comment on the telepathy, I hope this dudes trolling.

Quote (Slowtoanger @ Apr 6 2011 03:55am)

I see that you're making a critique on my opinions yet offer nothing to offer his questions.

That's cool.

Edit:: Read verse 11:1 for the bold part.

For the cliff thing, what if you see a child "gradually" heading towards the cliff? Better?