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Feb 3 2011 05:36pm
Do you think Jesus is the son of god, or god in the flesh?

1. Do you think god would sacrifice himself for his creation?
2. Do you think God needs to be born from a woman in order to come to earth in the flesh? (obviously not as since we read about God wrestling with Jacob in the form of a man)
3. What do you interpret the meaning of this verse if you think Jesus is God in the Flesh:

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

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1. Yes, God's love is unlimited. Nothing can stand in the way of God, his manifestation into flesh was just the "body" that would be used for what needed to be paid for our sins. (It is impossible to live 100% without sin)

2. No. You already answered it.

3. I think this verse attests to the fact that God ultimately wants us to love him and have a relationship with him. People tend to get caught up with other things, for example Jesus or other important figures. Jesus is especially important since he states that he is the only way to the Father.
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Quote (Wisco @ Feb 3 2011 04:45pm)
1. Yes, God's love is unlimited. Nothing can stand in the way of God, his manifestation into flesh was just the "body" that would be used for what needed to be paid for our sins. (It is impossible to live 100% without sin)

2. No. You already answered it.

3. I think this verse attests to the fact that God ultimately wants us to love him and have a relationship with him. People tend to get caught up with other things, for example Jesus or other important figures. Jesus is especially important since he states that he is the only way to the Father.


Wisco, you said it well.

What people often don't notice in that verse is the fact that Jesus is making the point that He is God in the flesh.

A good thing for everyone to do is to find your local "Christian" radio station. Listen to the broadcasts...

And as God says, "Test everything, and hold fast to that which is good."

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Do you think Jesus is the son of god, or god in the flesh?

1. Do  you think god would sacrifice himself for his creation?
2. Do you think God needs to be born from a woman in order to come to earth in the flesh? (obviously not as since we read about God wrestling with Jacob in the form of a man)
3. What do you interpret the meaning of this verse if you think Jesus is God in the Flesh:

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

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I'm just wondering why your jsp name involves a species that you and the followers in this forum deny the existence of
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I'm just wondering why your jsp name involves a species that you and the followers in this forum deny the existence of




looks to me it exists. who said it dont exist?

now if u think it's millions/billions of years old ur obviously wrong since nothing on it will tell u that. does it have a date stamped on it? no. Carbon dating? proven wrong... geologic column? also wrong/made up with a false assumption.

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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1166/540769211_3641d01358.jpg

looks to me it exists. who said it dont exist?

now if u think it's millions/billions of years old ur obviously wrong since nothing on it will tell u that.  does it have a date stamped on it? no. Carbon dating? proven wrong... geologic column? also wrong/made up with a false assumption.


Ok, so then let me ask you this.

We both agree dinosaurs exist. I agree on the discrepancies of time here as time is a figment of mans imagination that holds together the various complex languages of science such as physics (etc etc).

I'm just curious as to what happened to all these creatures?
If they existed after adam and eve (which is the ONLY possibility religion offers)

how did such giants fall without the loss of human lives?

was it the "great flood" ?

why did adam and eve hate on these creatures and many others like it if so?

In a world plagued with corruption on all sides i find myself questioning my faith now moreso than ever and it just might be opinions from people here that can change that all for me.



For simplicities sake i used adam and eve twice, once as themselves in the literal sense and the second time as "humankind"

(before you say noah was ark etc etc :lol: )

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Ok, so then let me ask you this.

We both agree dinosaurs exist. I agree on the discrepancies of time here as time is a figment of mans imagination that holds together the various complex languages of science such as physics (etc etc).

I'm just curious as to what happened to all these creatures?
If they existed after adam and eve (which is the ONLY possibility religion offers)

how did such giants fall without the loss of human lives?

was it the "great flood" ? the great flood killed everything but what noah took in his ark. no1 knows what exactly he took. but dont u think the more dangerous animals would have to be killed by man through time since they pose the greatest danger.  do you think all the stories of dragons and great beasts are fake? dont u think theyr suppose to be based on something real at least? think about it ;)

why did adam and eve hate on these creatures and many others like it if so?  if you read the bible, before the flood there was no conflict between humanity and animals. if u notice after the flood god told noah that all the animals will fear them from now on.  if you study zoology you would know that the only reason animals attack is because of the feeling of a threat to them.  trying to survive/fear is the main reason.  the earth had changed after the great flood and there was less of everything so life changed for humans/animals in a bad way.

In a world plagued with corruption on all sides i find myself questioning my faith now moreso than ever and it just might be opinions from people here that can change that all for me. Look. wer all gonna die, life is short- i want to make sure im going in the right place in case there is an afterlife.  i strongly believe there is an afterlife. what purpose would life have.  it would make sense if there was no soul to anything and life was just more robotic. running mechanisms. but because there is a soul in you, you actually get to experience life through the eyes of a body.  there are also alot of religoins in the world all trying to say the same thing - something about a soul, an afterlife and a truth that is hidden from the normal view in life.



For simplicities sake i used adam and eve twice, once as themselves in the literal sense and the second time as "humankind"

(before you say noah was ark etc etc :lol: )


answers in bold ^

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Do you think Jesus is the son of god, or god in the flesh?

1. Do  you think god would sacrifice himself for his creation?
2. Do you think God needs to be born from a woman in order to come to earth in the flesh? (obviously not as since we read about God wrestling with Jacob in the form of a man)
3. What do you interpret the meaning of this verse if you think Jesus is God in the Flesh:

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

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whats up w/ people and not being able to recognize parables when they see them? are you so void of creativity that when any word is spoken or written that you take it literally? the purpose of the bible was to explain the unexplainable to a naive group of people. apparently it continues to serve this purpose.

/e wow after reading some of the posts in this thread.....

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whats up w/ people and not being able to recognize parables when they see them? are you so void of creativity that when any word is spoken or written that you take it literally? the purpose of the bible was to explain the unexplainable to a naive group of people. apparently it continues to serve this purpose.

/e wow after reading some of the posts in this thread.....


i'd be careful man, there is a tactful way of stating your opinion and being a douche isn't one of them especially around here. Unlike you i am genuinely interested in hearing the opinions of people with a faith more fierce than any facts you or i could whip out..

Being an intellect you need to leave open room for the possibilities of anyone being right, and nobody being right.

In my existential quest to figure out the origin of man i cannot seem to get past the question.

Do you trust more someone who never changed their story or rarely does.

Or someone who ever so often contradicts itself to advance.

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answers in bold ^


I respect your beliefs, i hope that you will find peace in the afterlife regardless of where you end up. I hope this for all mankind religious or not, regardless of race/beliefs or whatever.
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