Did got not make humans perfect, makes no sense. Burn your creations if they don't believe. So basically, if you had a child, you'd burn him cause he didn't listen.

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@OP with that logic no one would ever have kids...and wed die as a species =\

only the strong survive. I find this argument lame myself. You cannot know pleasure without knowing pain first.
A stronger argument I believe.. Heaven must be perfect because to live without sin is perfect. Nothing less. My mom is a great person, but if she didn't believe in Jesus she will burn. I must now live life sad in heaven knowing my mother is suffering for eternity. Sadness to anger, anger to hate, we now have sin again. Welcome to the second failed earth. Even if all my loved ones made it to heaven and my enemies burn, my enemies are loved by someone else. We obviously can't be born without memory of these people. It would destroy the reason of free will. I am agnostic, I am not set in any belief, I am open to anything logical. There may be a higher power, but I do not believe it is how it is depicted in the bible. I could go on all day about this but I always get 10%. Good luck.

Hey there yogi

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Jan 14 2011 11:30am

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Well, He did send Jesus down to this planet to redeem those who will humble themselves and accept.

yeah, but why.... instead of making his son suffer, he could just have made humans perfect in his own eyes. Instead, we have to make the choice of believing and repenting. What about all the people who have never heard of God before, people in Africa that have not been told. Do they just perish in hell?

Because then there would be no free-will.

Don't ask Why questions when you're thinking about religion, because you're going to find a lot of logical disconnects. For example!

Q: Why is abortion wrong?
A: Because it's the killing of innocent, unborn babies.

Q: Why did God kill all of the innocent, unborn babies in the Genesis flood?
A: Because... Umm...

Because we are told of the state of man in the days before Noah's flood. Do you not think God makes provision for those whom He is going to save?

Genesis 6:5 "The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth--men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air--for I am grieved that I have made them."

Yes, those unborn babies must have been full of wickedness if God saw fit to murder them before they even had the opportunity to choose whether they might be good. Then again, God also did the same thing in Sodom and Gomorrah, killing an uncountable number of innocent babies all because their parents may have been wicked.