The bible says that if we believe that Jesus died for our sins we will be saved is that correct? Those that don’t believe go to hell correct? BUT WHY did someone have to die because I masturbate? If I caught someone masturbating I wouldn’t kill them for it. Does that make me more forgiving then God? I don’t know if I would want someone to die for me cuz of it… Does that mean that I am not saved? I am not sure I would want to be… to spend eternity knowing that billions are suffering forever and there was nothing I could do to help… while being forced to worship the being who put them there simply because they did not believe that someone else should die because they masturbate…

Yes. Yes. Masturbating can be associated with lusting. Lusting is bad. No you are not more forgiving than God. No it does not mean you are not saved.

Sure gives an odd twist to the first 3/4 of your story haha.
The line drawn between sinful lust and healthy lust is different per individual. That's interpretation. Therefore, it is you who have to decide for yourself whether situation X is lust or situation X is healthy.
It's proven by the way, that orgasms and such lower the chance for a heart attack by 50%~, given that it comes with one per day.

/e Isn't God responsible for the very results our scientists get? Why would God make Lust, considered a sin, a healthy concept?

This post was edited by Forg0tten on Dec 4 2010 03:12am

living is a sin...

everyone sins..

jesus forgives them all

stop worrying all too much

as long as you awoid hurting other people on purpos and do good things

do your daily prayers if you do that..

then everything should be fine

wow man you have no idea how many times i've made this argument. in particularI am not sure I would want to be

take into consideration the billions of muslims who have lived much less sinfull lives (relative to me ofc) suffering an enternity all because of where they were born (if you ignore environmental influence you are just a fool). but I a sinfull fuck who believes in jesus is saved? no fair god would judge that way and if he did i'd renounce his name.

i've formed a more of a spiritual belief system than a religious one. it's all about a personal relationship with god.

in particular i believe we are held accountable for the things we "know". for instance i know jesus died for our sins. therefore by denying these events i would be damned. i also know that the bible is meant to be tool and not to be taken literal.

This post was edited by zeratul87 on Dec 4 2010 06:49pm

interesting