How can really God protect me? How can I really know that he's with me when everything is going wrong. When every simple jocke i just crack, i just wanna be unhappy, crash every thing who can make me feel happy.

There's not a purpose for us in our life. We just have to live them... for nothing. Why should I spend my life... doing what everybody want me to do? How can Christian Fellowship explain that kind of feelings?

Good luck giving me a reason, cause anybody in my life could.

any logical christian will tell you that you can't actually look for any tangible evidence whatsoever. you'll only disappoint yourself by never finding it. some may lie to themselves and fabricate situations, but those aren't the logical christians i'm talking about.

it's all about intangible faith. just follow the belief, it involves a whole lot of convincing yourself, but as long as you have some sort of faith in it. that's what religion's about.



correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that more or less what being a christian is all about?

This post was edited by Wretch on Oct 31 2010 03:24am

That doesn't sound very logical at all.
More like blind faith.

wait, you're saying faith isn't blind?

... seriously?

faith is blind cambovenzi, that's the only one sure point.

Its just im an atheist, i dont trust in god, but i just dont trust even myself. So what can I do, when i have nothing happy or funny to do. What will christian fellowship think about me if I get so tired that i can even convince myself.

I can tell you are being humble, whenever you come in here asking for help that is the first step. I mean you aren't going to resist what we will say because you have accepted that you can't do it on your own.

Don't worry about it, if you put your trust in God he will make sure everything works out for you.

The general consensus is religion doesn't and will never make sense unless you forfeit your reason and submit. Jesus dying for you on the cross would be a load of crap up until the point you set aside the logical portion of your brain and let your curiosity and desire take over. It's really the same as anything else that isn't grounded in truth. When the truth isn't there, you have to appeal to emotion, which likewise is not grounded in truth, to be able to "understand". This doesn't mean that god doesn't exist and this doesn't mean that current depictions of what he may be like are bad necessarily. It just means that silly hum0nz will be silly hum0nz. God can and will protect you if you really believe he will, as most Christians do, but you can acquire the same sense of security in yourself and in your accomplishments (or lack thereof, live and learn).

The Christian faith is not a blind faith. God presents himself to us in very tangible ways through general and specific revelation.

Alright, maybe i was wrong. Could you help me understand how with a solid example of how God tangibly represents himself in your life?