A verse states in the bible somewhere along the lines: Give to Caesar what is Caesars and to God what is Gods.

What I got from that is give the taxes to the government, or, the world what is the worlds, and give to god love/compassion and personal sacrifices.

I have been really struggling financially lately and I am wondering if it has a connection to tithing. (as i currently do not)

Any miracle stories anyone has experienced first hand once they began to start giving money to the Lord?

Of course, my motive is not simply give to get back (perhaps, consciously it may be) however I do daily feel compelled in my heart to help those with less than myself.

Alas I spoke with my preacher about it, I told him that I just simply couldn't afford to tithe, he looked to me and said "Son, you can't afford not to tithe."

This post was edited by ImmolatePK on Sep 12 2010 03:19am

This one person who i know (she is a mom of someone who goes to my school and shes really in the Word, and really connected with God) who used to be atheist.
but when she turned to God, her life was kinda crashing down, they were struggling real hard finnancially, etc.
She felt the Lord tell her to give the 10% like the Bible says.... now her husband is extremely rich, and she doesnt really care about how rich she is, but everything is really nice in their house,
she has an ipad, iphone, like a 1.5M house.. etc.


am i saying that YOU need to tithe? thats a question to ask God about.. but just ask Him and youll feel it in your heart.

If a preacher or pastor had the audacity to say this to me I would give him my back as I left his church , right after I called him a fraud .

We give as the Spirit moves us to give and not by the greed of a single man . ( please feel free to tell him I said this ) .

This post was edited by WidowMaKer_MK on Sep 12 2010 04:59am

i do agree with this, IHOP (International House of Prayer.) has a 24/7 prayer room, online, and is constantly broadcasted..
this costs 50,000 dollars a month... they RANDOMLY get checks and tithings. They wanted to buy the building they're in now, and they RANDOMLY
recieved a check that they could not trace back for the amount of money they needed.

Money is nothing to God, so give what He tells you, He'll more than likely repay you.

tithing is VERYYYY important

and that verse wasnt talking about tithing.

its a verse in one of the old testament books , malachiah i think

it says give 10% to the Lord and he will bless you and also some other stuff that is really good finanially

and your preacher was right, you cant afford not to tithe
not tithing will cost you more money then tithing because God stops all the little things that heppen to you. finanially.

oh ya i also have a story
one time one of my parents friends went to church with us, and they never really tithed before
well it happens that that service was about tithing and so after they gave just 20 bucks to the church as a tithe

later that night they went to a raffle and won a 50" plasma screen TV
just showing how much the Lord can bless you

This post was edited by weasleface on Sep 12 2010 07:07am

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The New Testament teaches generous, sacrificial giving, from the heart, according to our means. For some, $1 might be a sacrifice, while for others, even giving 50% of their income might not induce a sacrifice. In the Old Testament, ONLY the farmers tithed, and it was equal percentage (a tenth). The New Testament teaches the principle of equal sacrifice instead of equal percentage. Equal sacrifice is much harder to achieve, if not impossible, than giving ten percent.

OLD TESTAMENT - THE FIRST OF THE FRUITS SHOULD GO TO GOD
Proverbs 3:9 (KJV) “Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase:”

NEW TESTAMENT - THE WORKER SHOULD BE FIRST TO RECEIVE A SHARE OF THE FRUIT
2 Timothy 2:6 (KJV) “The husbandman that laboureth must be first partaker of the fruits.”

When was the last time you heard a pastor say that you should spend the FIRST part of your income on yourself and your family?

1 Timothy 5:8 (KJV) “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”

The New Testament makes it clear that we are to use the FIRST of our income to take care of ourselves and our family. We are talking about needs, here, not just anything we want. Then we should give generously from what is left.

The Bible CLEARLY SHOWS that the tithe ENDED at the cross in the Book of Hebrews. In the first nine verses of Hebrews 7 the words tenth or tithes appears SEVEN TIMES. The ONLY place in the Bible, after Calvary, that tithing appears is in Hebrews 7.

In Hebrews 7:5 we are told that Levi (the Levites) took the tithes under the law. In Hebrews 7:12 we are told that when the priesthood changes, the law will change. Hebrews 7:18 is telling us that Numbers 18 was disannulled. Numbers 18 established the Levitical priesthood, and part of that establishing included tithing. When the Levitical priesthood ended (at Calvary, or at least in the year 70AD when the temple was destroyed), all laws that established that priesthood were canceled. If Numbers 18 wasn't canceled, we would still be under the Levitical priesthood.

Those who argue Malachi 3:8, robbing God, need to start with verse 7. God is talking about His ordinances in Numbers 18 which we learned were disannulled according to Hebrews 7:18. Also, if you start with Malachi 1, you will see that God is speaking to the priests, not the people. The priests robbed God of the tithe (Nehemiah 13) and the priests robbed God of the offerings (Malachi 1).

It's not as much about his greed as much as it is that you are supposed to give even when you are struggling. A very well known story in the bible is about the poor woman who gives just a penny and that penny alone is worth more to God than a hundred dollars that anyone else could give. It's not about the amount, it's about the sacrifice. So, the preacher was right.

You are speaking of the widow's mite.

You fail to acknowledge that in the Old Testament, the widows, orphans, and the poor were SUPPORTED by the tithe. Every three years was the 3-year Tithe aka the Poor Tithe. Also, the farmers, the ONLY ones commanded to tithe, were not allowed to harvest their crops clear out to the corners, but rather were commanded to leave the sides and corners FOR THE POOR.

The pastor was wrong, and I would leave a church where the pastor showed such ignorance of God's Word.

you make this sound like a give 20 bucks get 1000 out.. the point is to give to the Lord who blesses you because hes good basically, not cause you get alot out like u make it sound.



does it matter that they were supported? it still meant more to Jesus than all the rich pharisees giving because they think they can buy their way into Heaven and
can just do what Mark 7:8 says not to.

Tithing is important, but not to the extent of greed.. (agreeing AND disagreeing with your statement.. 1st is disagree, 2nd part is agreeing.)