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May 1 2010 09:16pm
Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tested, I am tested by God; for it is not possible for God to be tested by evil, and he himself puts no man to such a test:
Jas 1:14 But every man is tested when he is turned out of the right way by the attraction of his desire.
Jas 1:15 Then when its time comes, desire gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is of full growth, gives birth to death.
Jas 1:16 Do not be turned from the right way, dear brothers.

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i think this is very true, i dont think god tests people or even the devil testing people, when u get a temptation its not from the devil, its something natural you've made a habit to doing. And i think the point of this whole part is to tell you to turn away from that habit. Turn away from the habit of desire

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May 2 2010 01:40am
this is why we all die, evil is within man/
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May 2 2010 02:20am
A common misconception and struggle for people to understand is how people go to hell. The thing is, God does not condemn anyone to hell. When it says he judges people, it's judging in the sense that a judge says, "You're guilty." We make our own case; we condemn ourselves to hell by not believing in him, accepting him into our lives, and repenting for our sins.

When it says we are born into hell, you can take that quite literally. A newborn is pure; however, the environment it grows up in is not.
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May 2 2010 03:33pm
Quote (Krassen @ May 1 2010 10:16pm)
Jas 1:13  Let no man say when he is tested, I am tested by God; for it is not possible for God to be tested by evil, and he himself puts no man to such a test:
Jas 1:14  But every man is tested when he is turned out of the right way by the attraction of his desire.
Jas 1:15  Then when its time comes, desire gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is of full growth, gives birth to death.
Jas 1:16  Do not be turned from the right way, dear brothers.

what do you think?

i think this is very true, i dont think god tests people or even the devil testing people, when u get a temptation its not from the devil, its something natural you've made a habit to doing.  And i think the point of this whole part is to tell you to turn away from that habit.  Turn away from the habit of desire

comments?


So you dont believe in the wilderness or temptations?

The wilderness is in the Will of God, so no, we are not tested by evil, but we go through the wilderness, which God has set before us, to have the flesh torn apart, thus bringing out the strength of the Holy Spirit in us.

Temptation does exsist, however, and you say that its a natural habit of what we have done,
well then how do you justify Jesus's temptations? He never did anything wrong.
His being in the desert is both physical and symbolic. The desert is like the wilderness, so we are tested to be going through a trial which god has set before us. Anyone wanna comment?
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