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Apr 16 2010 05:34am
okay, so i was baptized catholic, and my dad was catholic, and my mom was baptist, they didn't care much about going to church or anything like that at all, but where i live, we are surrounded by a lds/mormon church, an apostolic church, a baptist church, a buddhist temple, and i think a lutheran church or something, not sure. they weren't really big on going to church and worshipping or anything like that, they felt that you didn't need to prove to everyone else that you believed in god by going to church, they thought you could worship him at home, and from what i remember, they never enforced any religious studies, or made us worship anything, they rarely talked about it. actually, all through out my life they've been real mad about how they think church is just an excuse to socialize n whatnot, my mom is real cynical.

so i'm thinking, do you think that if you enforce your kids to go to church that it is more likely that they'd believe, or uh, do you think going to church to worship is better than staying at home and worshipping? i'm not sure how to word that question.

also, i always here of everyone saying how they were saved by god, or heard a voice, or just felt that they had to do something or go somewhere. i have never felt anything like that, ever, i mean i have, but it's simple things like, if i hear a voice, i feel like it's me, thinking, not someone else talking to me, and if i felt i had to do something it was for a reason, or well, because i wanted to do it, but i never do things on impulse, and if i ever wanted to go somewhere out of state or anything like that, then it'd be somewhere i really wanted to visit or ride or whatever. i never experienced that voice, and i don't feel that i've been saved, and believe me, i have tried to talk to god, numerous times, but after no response in any way, so many times, i just started to rely on myself. this guy that said i was going to hell a while back said that people are chosen to believe, and not everyone gets saved or can hear the voice of god. it made me wonder, what do these people have that i don't have, and how come on the weekends or the days that they are not at church, they seem less righteous than anyone i personally know, and yet, they can hear god or they have been saved. it doesn't seem fair to me.

the question here is, are there people who just aren't chosen to believe or anything like that, or people that are chosen to hear the voice of god or be saved?

now, i can feel love, i feel like it's there. how come when someone asks me if i believe in god or something and i'm like, it's not important, or don't worry about it, or i completely change the subject, they persist to question me, like i need to be saved or, i need something. then when i explain to them that i just don't feel anything, they're like, it's like love, you can't see it, you can't hear it, you can't smell it, but you can feel it, and i'm like yea, i can feel love, why can't i feel god or anything like that. usually the conversation stops there with, you should stop by my church some time, and usually i do stop by, see what it's about, and usually it's the same deal as the last church or gathering to worship place, i visit a few more times, nothing still. i never needed anyone or anything to keep me going, i've been through some tough times, but i've never felt the need to ask anyone for help, ever. why do people say i need help or things like that, when i feel i do not and that i handle myself appropriately.

what makes love different from the belief in god, or feeling god?
am i not sincere when trying to talk with god, or is there something i am doing wrong?
do you feel that you need god to survive, and if not, why do the people that i've talked to act like i need god in my life to survive?

what do you get from all of this? or, what do you, infer? i'm thinking infer is the word i'm looking for, correct me if i'm wrong.

I will have more questions as time gos on.
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Apr 16 2010 09:22pm
Im going to be completely honest with you, ive been catholic for 14 years, and NEVER ONCE felt the presence.

I went to this kids house whose a FIERY christian, and i got toched the first time.

Do it in secret, do it in church, find what WORKS FOR YOU.

God will reveal himself in ways, and will tell you to do stuff, and if you endure, it feels so great, because the Spirit is with you.

To be completely honest, most of the catholic church is corrupt, and doesnt follow scripture.
Examples : The Hail Mary , when you say this prayer you pray to the dead, and something that is not god (aka witchcraft)
praying to the saints - same as above.


My advice is just to go home, read the word of God, and just ask him to reveal something to you, if you hear a voice in your head telling you to do something - do it. (unless its like Satan or something, youll be able to tell the difference.)
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Apr 17 2010 02:15pm
You people are nuts.
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Apr 17 2010 04:15pm
Quote (Keasbey_Nights @ 16 Apr 2010 19:22)
Im going to be completely honest with you, ive been catholic for 14 years, and NEVER ONCE felt the presence.

I went to this kids house whose a FIERY christian, and i got toched the first time.

Do it in secret, do it in church, find what WORKS FOR YOU.

God will reveal himself in ways, and will tell you to do stuff, and if you endure, it feels so great, because the Spirit is with you.

To be completely honest, most of the catholic church is corrupt, and doesnt follow scripture. 
  Examples : The Hail Mary , when you say this prayer you pray to the dead, and something that is not god (aka witchcraft)
  praying to the saints - same as above.


My advice is just to go home, read the word of God, and just ask him to reveal something to you, if you hear a voice in your head telling you to do something - do it. (unless its like Satan or something, youll be able to tell the difference.)


how would you be able to tell the difference between the voices if you have never seen the two before? and what if what you thought was god was actually satan, and you're following satan?
what you said also reminded me of madonna.
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Apr 18 2010 02:26pm
I believe tat if you raised your kids right and with a good church instilling in the the right morals and everything they will grow up believers

i've never heard voices of felt called by God to do anything i just continue reading the word and praying God lays on my heart what to do i don't believe that God chooses people in advanced i believe that if you want to believe and you accept Christ into your life he will show you how he has worked you into his plan

well according to 1 john 4:8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. so feeling love is feeling God and showing love to others is how you show God's love to others

I personally believe yes you need God to survive because i believe that we were created to originally be in a relationship with him as described in Eden Man Woman and God all together without sin

i infer that you're just questioning a lot right now and it's normal i do that from time to time but i usually just look through my bible and find answers to a lot of the questions i'm asking
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Apr 18 2010 11:21pm
First of all, I admire that you go where a lot of people just will not go. Whether it is out of laziness, lack of better words or just because they don't.


To answer your first question/concern. You can't force somebody to feel religion. And making them sit in an uncomfortable enviroment Sunday morning after Sunday morning is just not the right way to encourage your opinions and beliefs. Also, the style of worship you choose doesn't matter to me, as long as you feel right about it. It is alright with God.

Second, you don't just get randomly selected to find or believe in God. You don't hear some magical voice that says "Oh, hey... This is God, I just thought I would let you know that I'm here." As far as I'm concerned, that has not, and will not happen to anybody, ever. You just feel it, whether it is all of the sudden, or gradual. Somehow it happens, whether it is the fear of nothingness, or just faith. That is how it happens, in my opinion.

Third, the difference between the feeling of love and the feeling of God would be that they are two seperate feelings from two seperate circumstances. Also, that is basically just an example. But I understand why they say it. Although, I can't explain the feeling(s) or the differences very well.

I don't think that you are doing anything wrong, what brought me closest to God wasn't a church, it wasn't the bible, it wasn't anybody but myself. I just felt it. I don't know what caused it and I didn't all of the sudden "fall in faith", so to speak.

I honestly do not think that you need God to survive, although I don't think it can do much harm to have a little faith. But don't force yourself to be faithful. The people that tell you to attend their church, or read the bible are just trying to give the best advice they can, although most of the time it only pertains to their individual situation and it's just a bunch of nonsense to anybody else. And frankly, it just turns people off of God.


In conclusion, I think the best way to find faith is to just let it happen. You can't force it. If you become faithful, then that is fine. If you don't, then you won't be damned for something that isn't your fault. You can't believe in something that you don't believe. That's just nonsense.

This post was edited by Roachweed on Apr 18 2010 11:25pm
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