False. You can't mix in bad without good. That's like saying God and Jesus don't exist. If Satan and his demons can sing with a rock band, then angels and Jesus can as well.

Sure, i'll admit that rock, if attention is fully on it and you are completely enjoying yourself, then you are in a trance-LIKE state. This is also a form of hypnotism, but this doesn't mean someone/something has any control over you whatsoever. You still have consciousness and can discern good from bad. Anytime i listen to a song i listen to the words and if i don't agree with them, then i don't listen to it.

Let's talk subliminal. This is psychological, and highly theoretical, that is if you're saying that there is an underlying message within a song; you didn't really define subliminal.

Phases of a human's life. Everyone has moments of defiance or lust. Drugs and alcohol are less common, but many people do them. These are known as sin, and no person can beat them all; all we can do is try, that is what makes us human and imperfect.

Music. You say that the forms of music that are satanic are pop, rock, funk, and rap. That makes no sense, because in any other form of music can bring you to the same state. You did not include country btw, but i will assume you meant to. Singing christian songs(by this i mean the elongated hymns that are often in Latin) can bring you to the same state as i mentioned, and demons can sing along with those as well. No way you can get around that.

So debate if you'd like, but i probably won't counter because i really don't care, i'll do what i want. I just dislike when people spread ignorance, no offense.

You guys are missing out on so much in life..... And you are extremely narrow minded...

lol or maybe its you who is missing out?
what exactly are we missing out on?

This post was edited by DB_odin on Apr 8 2012 02:19pm

Heaven, but who said I'm worshiping to just go to Heaven. If at anything when I first became saved at a young age I did it because I didn't want to go to Hell. But upon my rededication I don't want to be separated from my Father and Jesus Christ for eternity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WcKrdFHTds

1 Hour 7 Minutes in talks about music from the first family in Satanism

rock is soothing, that's my opinion. there is no way you can prove what you say.

bold states your stance

At this point, are we arguing to make someone else see our stance? Or are we arguing out of conviction? The common factor should be that we love Jesus. We may have different doctrinal, and theological views, and our convictions may not be the same but we should DISCUSS these things on the basis that Jesus destroys egos.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer once said "Jesus was the mediator between God and man, and man, and man. Without Christ, we should not know God, nor could we come to him. Without Christ, we should not know our brother, nor should we come to him. The way is blocked by our own ego."
In instances like this, we need to evaluate whether we are truly arguing FOR Jesus, and not for ourselves. Some convictions are directly from scripture, and some are personal. Paul talks about this. When someone shares their convictions, don't put them down, or adopt them as your own. Your walk is your own. To put another's convictions down, is to potentially cause them to stumble, which Paul warns about in 1 Corinthians. Your convictions are your own. We should be a people that love Jesus so much that we bind together in our disagreements, and shock each other back to life, like the community we are called to be. It's not about if you listen to rock or rap, whether you mow your lawn on Sunday. Loving Jesus, and longing to grow more intimately with him is priority, everything else is secondary.

Thanks for posting bro! Great post. And I think that sums it up nicely. I won't be posting in this thread anymore if anyone wants to 1on1 talk about it, I'd be more than glad to. If anyone has felt attacked by me in this thread, I am sorry.

This post was edited by Silenced_Matrix on Apr 9 2012 06:09am

thanks for spreading ignorance and annoyance....

bless you either way