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May 13 2011 06:22pm
Quote (dwarf1579 @ May 13 2011 12:53am)
The bible also has told us not to feel hatred, anger, frustration and etc. These are all apart of human nature also, but if God did not want us to feel these emotions, what did he create us with them??

Thank you for your sugar coated advice, it is very much appreciated. With my overwhelming thoughts about this topic, I am wondering why God creates us with emotions that he does not want us to feel. In addition, I believe he does not want us to lust, so why does he create us with overflowing hormones?


You're welcome for the advice. I hope you do not mean I suger-coated them in a way that people usually mean that, which is that it was not sincere. I certainly want to help you, because I myself experienced this situation when I first came to Christ, only I was the one who ended a relationship. I was in pain for quite a while and struggled over some of these same issues. I also expressly stated that I'm not condemning you, because you are genuinely trying to come to greater knowledge of Christ through this situation. I was not sugar-coating a message of condemnation either.

In regards to njaguar's post above, there is little that I can add. There are just a few scriptures I want to bring up however (taken from the NKJV).

Ephesians 4:26-27
26 "Be angry, and do not sin": do not let the sun go down on your wrath,
27 nor give place to the devil.
Clearly in this passage, we are given leeway to be angry about certain topics, as long as it does not cause us to react in certain sinful ways (such as revenge). For example, there is nothing wrong with a man being angry if somebody insults his wife unjustifiably, but it is what he does with that anger that is important.

In regards to lust, Joshua Harris defines it as "wanting sexually what you cannot have." So desiring to have sexual relations with your wife is not necessarily lusful, because "Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge" (Hebrews 13:4). That is, when you are married any sexual activity is permitted, so long as you both are doing it because of a genuine love and passion that you share.

There are other scriptures to be referenced, but I believe njaguar above explained things very well in regards to emotions.
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You're welcome for the advice. I hope you do not mean I suger-coated them in a way that people usually mean that, which is that it was not sincere. I certainly want to help you, because I myself experienced this situation when I first came to Christ, only I was the one who ended a relationship. I was in pain for quite a while and struggled over some of these same issues. I also expressly stated that I'm not condemning you, because you are genuinely trying to come to greater knowledge of Christ through this situation. I was not sugar-coating a message of condemnation either.

In regards to njaguar's post above, there is little that I can add. There are just a few scriptures I want to bring up however (taken from the NKJV).

Ephesians 4:26-27
26 "Be angry, and do not sin": do not let the sun go down on your wrath,
27 nor give place to the devil.
Clearly in this passage, we are given leeway to be angry about certain topics, as long as it does not cause us to react in certain sinful ways (such as revenge). For example, there is nothing wrong with a man being angry if somebody insults his wife unjustifiably, but it is what he does with that anger that is important.

In regards to lust, Joshua Harris defines it as "wanting sexually what you cannot have." So desiring to have sexual relations with your wife is not necessarily lusful, because "Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge" (Hebrews 13:4). That is, when you are married any sexual activity is permitted, so long as you both are doing it because of a genuine love and passion that you share.

There are other scriptures to be referenced, but I believe njaguar above explained things very well in regards to emotions.


No I definitely didn't mean you weren't sincere, I just meant you were a lot nicer about it than Torn is.

njaguar, a question to you, but I don't mean to put you on the spot or anything nor do I mean to insult or offend you in any way, but as a Christian, lets say a friend talks to you about having sex with their girlfriend or boyfriend. Would you approve or disapprove and what advice would you give them. Would what you say differ whether or not they are a Christian or not?

This post was edited by dwarf1579 on May 14 2011 11:12am
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Also, what exactly is the Doxology? I've been to different churches and one sings the Doxology at the end of the service, but the other church does not. Can anybody explain the reason behind this?
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