one sentence can't mean two things. Just like one book can't mean 2 things.

your not interpreting the bible wrong, your not even on the same path as it.....

you even say you dismiss certain parts of it.... and alot of your logical reasoning isnt even based on the word of god...

You have repeatedly stated you would not accept any biblical verses at all. I find it insulting that you think so little of our intelligence to be able to go back and see where you said this plain as day (post #48, etc).

How judgmental and rude for you to say something like that. There is a sense in which God loves everyone in the whole world (John 3:16; 1 John 2:2; Romans 5:8). This love in not conditional—it is based only on the fact that God is a God of love (1 John 4:8, 16).

Christian or not, god is said to love all human beings. I'm like Vio, I believe there is a higher power of God, but I also do believe in what science has to say about it to. Heaven isn't a place you just show up after you die, clouds and light and stuff. No.
Heaven is a part of the spirit and mind, I believe Heaven can differ from person to person.

Now this is something I don't like about some die hard Christians (not putting you or anyone on the spotlight, just generally speaking), people are criticized and hated for not believing fully, what you are doing is going against the Bible by putting people down about their views, quite frankly. And who gave you the power to judge and criticize what other people believe about the Bible? No one.

And the people who follow their own beliefs, in my opinion, lead a good happy life. People can believe in God without even reading or believing in the bible, so don't say that garbage. If you want my personal opinion about religion itself, I think it's one of the major problems in the worlds corruption.

This post was edited by xMurdeRx on Jun 15 2011 04:30pm

yes love is unconditional. however some things need to be said.

However i disagree that heaven cannot differ from person to person. There is ONE God and ONE throne in which he sits at. How can that change?

There are people who should not criticize or be consumed with hate, no matter how zealous they are for God. But with that being said, there is a time to rebuke people in the matters and areas where they are wrong. Correct and move on. No hate but teaching out of love.

Following our own beliefs is one thing, however if it is against the word of God or his commandments then, your life is happy for the wrong reasons. It's either you live by the world, which may make temporary happiness. Or live by God and in God which creates eternal happiness. The choice is simply yours. God gave us free will to do what we will. You can choose.
Without reading the bible.. how does your soul live? do we not eat food to satisfy the flesh? how then cannot not eat the bread of live or drink the living water to not sustain our spirit?

And who says you can't live by the world and live by God? You need to fully believe in the bible to be accepted by God?
That's so stupid. I don't read the Bible, but I believe in my own type of God. God works in many ways, I believe God also exists in everyone who does good for others. Despite what the Bible says, I don't really care what it says.

this isn't religious debate forum.

Go talk there about the problems of the world and religion. We don't wanna hear it here.

Not debating nor do I want to, I just added my two cents about what I think about it.

Yep, Hell is part of the essential Christian doctrine. Its not a debatable subject.

Ask Hank Hannegraff the bible answer man, and you will get a detailed answer.