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Mar 23 2011 09:52pm
how is any of this relevant. just about everything is sin. and seeing as how the bible says no sin is greater then another...how does having gay sex differ from having sex with someone not your wife (as i beleive it also prohibits that too). either every one of you stop having sex PERIOD till married or stop judging...as the bible also says let he who is without sin cast the first fucking stone. ad libbed there a bit.
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Mar 23 2011 10:12pm
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how is any of this relevant. just about everything is sin. and seeing as how the bible says no sin is greater then another...how does having gay sex differ from having sex with someone not your wife (as i beleive it also prohibits that too). either every one of you stop having sex PERIOD till married or stop judging...as the bible also says let he who is without sin cast the first fucking stone. ad libbed there a bit.


All sin gets you an eternity in hell unless you properly repent and whatnot. Believe in god, jesus, ghost of christmas past and whatnot. But different sins equaled different punishments and methods of getting on Gods good side (in the old testament).
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All sin gets you an eternity in hell unless you properly repent and whatnot. Believe in god, jesus, ghost of christmas past and whatnot. But different sins equaled different punishments and methods of getting on Gods good side (in the old testament).


then ill make sure to do a hail mary and what not after every man im with.
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Mar 23 2011 10:19pm
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All sin gets you an eternity in hell unless you properly repent and whatnot. Believe in god, jesus, ghost of christmas past and whatnot. But different sins equaled different punishments and methods of getting on Gods good side (in the old testament).


idk man, to be honest with you, you jack off to furries
I think it's a sin
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Mar 23 2011 10:34pm
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idk man, to be honest with you, you jack off to furries
I think it's a sin


My pastor told that one could commit adultery in the mind, that one doesn't have to actually engage in sexual acts. Merely desiring another in that manner, if you already have a woman, or if she already has a man, is adultery.
So by that definition of adultery, masturbating to pornography is adultery. Masturbating to furry porn isn't, since you can't commit adultery with something that isn't real. You also cannot commit the sin of bestiality with something that isn't real.
Though, masturbation itself, the wasting of ones seed is a sin.

EDIT: So me masturbating to furry porn is actually only one sin, compared to the two you commit masturbating to "regular" porn.

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My pastor told that one could commit adultery in the mind, that one doesn't have to actually engage in sexual acts. Merely desiring another in that manner, if you already have a woman, or if she already has a man, is adultery.
So by that definition of adultery, masturbating to pornography is adultery. Masturbating to furry porn isn't, since you can't commit adultery with something that isn't real. You also cannot commit the sin of bestiality with something that isn't real.
Though, masturbation itself, the wasting of ones seed is a sin.

EDIT: So me masturbating to furry porn is actually only one sin, compared to the two you commit masturbating to "regular" porn.


Seems like interesting conversation you had with your pastor
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Seems like interesting conversation you had with your pastor


This wasn't a direct conversation between me and him, but rather his sermon on adultery.
I disagree, in all honesty, simply because those "impure" thoughts are human. Its ones faith, morality and common sense that leads a human to not follow those thoughts, and to do what is right in the legal, moral, and/or Christian way.
You can't say you're a sinner for thinking about another attractive female, because there's parts of your brain that specifically make you do so. That leads us into the whole topic of whether humans are born "bad" and have to work towards "good"
It's what one does or doesn't do that makes them a sinner in the Christian sense of the word.

(Personally, I'm agnostic, but I understand the base principles of Christianity better than a lot of Christians I've met on the internet)
(I was raised in a Christian family, church every Sunday, same as my father, very small close-knit town.)

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This wasn't a direct conversation between me and him, but rather his sermon on adultery.
I disagree, in all honesty, simply because those "impure" thoughts are human. Its ones faith, morality and common sense that leads a human to not follow those thoughts, and to do what is right in the legal, moral, and/or Christian way.
You can't say you're a sinner for thinking about another attractive female, because there's parts of your brain that specifically make you do so. That leads us into the whole topic of whether humans are born "bad" and have to work towards "good"
It's what one does or doesn't do that makes them a sinner in the Christian sense of the word.

(Personally, I'm agnostic, but I understand the base principles of Christianity better than a lot of Christians I've met on the internet)


oh awesome I am agnostic atheist
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oh awesome I am agnostic atheist


No, are you atheist or agnostic?
Atheists don't believe in god.
Agnostics believe one cannot know whether there is or is not a god, and as such choose to not follow religion.
This is because religions claim to know about god and how he/she/it works.
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No, are you atheist or agnostic?
Atheists don't believe in god.
Agnostics believe one cannot know whether there is or is not a god, and as such choose to not follow religion.
This is because religions claim to know about god and how he/she/it works.

Agnostic means you can't know, but it doesn't necessarily mean you don't believe/follow a religion.

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