Did you ignore everything else I wrote? The dictionary gets plenty of definitions of words wrong. Atheism doesn't mean what most dictionaries say it means; I see no reason why they wouldn't have gotten this word wrong either.
And of course I chose the 4th definition, because it's still a definition. In other words, it's still used (even if it's used less than the other 3).

This post was edited by BDSM on Jul 9 2010 11:14am

I merely emphasized a few of the many flaws in your arguments.

As I see it, Atheism refers to the disbelief of a deity. And according to dictionary.com, Webster and, your favorite, Wikipedia, this is true.



lol, this is EXACTLY what some people do when reading the Bible - they only pull out/absorb/follow what they think is beneficial for them. If you're going to analyze something, analyze the whole thing, not just a little biased portion of it.

If you were to go into court would you say during the swear-in "I swear to tell the truth, but only "part-of-the-truth", and nothing but only "part-of-the-truth" so help me God" instead of "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth...etc"?

Of course not.

No, it's false, and you're wrong when you say Wikipedia gets it wrong. Atheism refers to the lack of belief in a deity, not disbelief; one may disbelieve and lack a belief in God, but both are not prerequisites/necessities to be an atheist.





LOL do you realize the logical implications of what you're saying? So when there are multiple definitions listed for a word, not all of them can be used? That's so mindblowingly ignorant and nonsensical I don't even know what to say.

IIRC, atheismis the disbelief of a deity while agnosticismis the lack of a belief in a deity.



Please quote me where I said the text in bold. In fact, I said:



This means that they DO use what they pull out.

However, I said that they shouldn't only be so near-sighted as to only use that piece of the puzzle.



Please don't put words in my mouth, or text in my hands, I don't appreciate it.

This post was edited by hi_mynameis on Jul 9 2010 11:36am

WRONG. Agnosticism is a position in regards to knowledge (or in other words, agnosticism states we can never know definitively what or who caused our universe to be, or if God does or does not exist), atheism/theism are positions in regards to beliefs. What you've just said is a common misconception stemming from ignorance.





Your example is completely irrelevant to the matter at hand. When concerning words and definitions, people ONLY USE ONE AT A TIME. What good would it do to take into consideration the other definitions of the word, WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING THEM.

I "put those words in your mouth" because I assumed you made some modicum of sense. Now that I understand what you're saying even better, I just realized that your point was even more irrelevant than I thought originally.

This post was edited by BDSM on Jul 9 2010 11:40am

I don't deny that I am ignorant in many things, I do not live in disillusion. So thank you for enlightening me with those definitions, although after some brief research on Google I don't believe what you defined is, again, the whole truth.

Nevertheless, I lack the time debate with someone who is evidently so set in his/her way that he denies all possibility of his belief being incorrect, although such short-sightedness is baffling yet not unexpected.

Oh, and adding insults at the end of your arguments mean nothing to me.

As BigDuke6 would say, have a Blessed Day.

So, you're relying on the definition of a word from a dictionary, but then blasting dictionaries as being inaccurate? That's called hypocrisy. There is no need to reply to anything else you said, because you're only attempting to twist words to your benefit, without providing anything substantial to back them. Yes, history proves mankind gets "good" wrong. There have been many cultures where it was acceptable to do absolutely deplorable things (all of which are sins according to the bible). Everything from human sacrifice, to pedophilia, to bestiality. You think it's only an issue with ancient societies? Think again, because it's happened as recently as the late 1960s in some "liberal" German circles. (Do some research on your own on that one. I'll give you a starting point: Rote Freiheit)

An atheist is one who does not believe in any higher power (God). If you're unsure, you're agnostic. But, I fully expect you to continue arguing that point, and you'll find all sorts of internet created definitions to suite your attempt at an argument, without any foundation based upon actual English meaning and usage.

Oh, and don't spam this forum again. You're in the wrong place.

sorry if im out of ur conversation, but ive read some posts here concerning drinking alcohol and i disagree 100%

I found love while drunk, I cry for God and pray for the world while drunk, I even cry on a bar sometimes if I see some girl lonely and feel her deep inside where she tries to hold and hide her sadness, and sooooo many other situations, including I rly feel that I love my girlfriend and how much I miss her (not because of sex) on my side, always when Im drunk..

I look at the sky at night into the stars and think of how beautiful this world/life/God and the universe is, and I thank God unlimited times.. Always when Im drunk!

Now explain why Alcohol attracts love and gets us sensible enough to feel God in an unimaginable strong way inside of us,..

And u say alcohol is sin.

Ur lives are so arrested to rules and pre-made thoughts that u wont realize how beautiful life is when ur free of them, and act upon logic and sense, other than what someone else told u even if it doesnt sound right to u.

drinking isnt a sin its just not a wise thing to do... it tells you not to smoke flax "weed"on ur roof tops tho partying isnt bad either but the other things r issues for alot of males