in the midst of the lack of direct christ. There is a whole lot of chance to do good. It is just difficult decision, one after another.

If the tribe person is able to keep evil at bay and possibly for others. Then at least he/she has shaped hearts. At least he/she has tried.

If the heart can hold christ, i see no reason a humanly good heart will be rejected. Post-Death judgement could be 1 second, or it could be a conversation for example.

No one will be any more evil infected after death, but have a chance to spill their heart. One cannot change one's life, b/c one is already dead

are you saying it is impossible to sin in heaven or hell?

Have you ever studied Christianity? If you had, you would know a number of things, least of which that it is unique in many aspects (personal God, for instance). Additionally, the creation account is very different than other religions (excluding Judaism and Muslims, which are based upon the same OT, to some degree). In other religions, the world came about generally through some fight, or strife, or cosmic ordeal. That is not so with Christianity, as you may or may not be aware.

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I say so long as youre a good person, god would have to be a mega dick to send you to hell, what just cause I dont believe a long shot (at best)?

I'm a good person, I do good things for people, I live my life trying to make life for those around me a little better.
Just cause I don't put myself under the christian banner ima go to hell?

Yeah god's a jealous asshole...
Which answers the original question of this thread:

Yes, they will all burn in hell for never having been given the chance to hear the "word of god"

Or more likely - the bible is a faery tale meant to scare stupid people into being good and to give false hope to stupid people so they feel like they have a reason to live.

You're such a good person, trying to help other people, yet you turn around and ridicule them for their beliefs.

It is not by your standards that you are judged, it is by God's.

since you're a pothead, you can't speak with authority on...well...anything, especially who is a stupid person or not.

u are screwed if u are in hell. sin all u want there.

Heaven will give u a chance. God is the ultimate judge. He has no gaps, he has no mistakes.
Heaven exists because he exists. He can play out ur future without u living it. Yet he lets u make ur life what it is.

In my opinion, heaven is a place not where u live. But where ur soul lives. So many pro's and no con's.
Who cares about what's exactly inside, get in there!

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@chron you made this big little essay about how your a great person and turn around and hate on someone's beliefs that should be a sign your not a "good" person, and facts are no one is a pure person no one, and no human can be.

how can we say that christianity is the only way to know God? God is said to be a pervasive, omnipresent being that is everywhere... by this logic even bushmen in africa experience, and thus come to know God in their own way everyday, without calling him by the name "God". you can eat an apple and taste/savour the flavour of it without knowing the names and properties of the sugars and other chemicals that comprise this flavour. their cultural values and intent in their everyday behavior will show whether or not they respect their perception of what christians label "God".

regardless of religion, there are people who live with good morals/values and there are people who live selfishly/hatefully. the values stressed by jesus are selflessness and love for others.... those who do good deeds without knowledge of christianity are spreading this love whether they are aware of/believe in the specificities that define what christians call God. i dont see why God cant be known and followed independently of christianity.... sure, christianity helps spread the knowledge of god, but i still dont see why it has to be the only way to "salvation". The christian view is so limited and also tied to western cultural/social influences that may not have been part of God's original words, which leads to an imperfect establishment that does not 100 percent accurately represent what the original christianity was supposed to be. we can quote the bible all we want, but come on guys, the book is 2000 years old from a culture that is far removed from ours today.... it is a great general guideline, but many things have probably been warped or lost in translation. i really dont believe in the whole "i quoted a relevant passage from the bible so i must be right" bullshit.... on top of the uncertainty caused by a 2000 year cultural gap and translational imperfections, you can twist a single quote to support almost anything.

honestly, i think it really boils down to intent. think about a doctor unaware of christianity who is in his profession because he genuinely wants to help other people, versus a christian doctor who is in the profession for the money.... treatment of patients and other good things undoubtedly come out of both of their jobs, but who has the kinder heart here? if God is gonna send the second guy to heaven just because he went through all the motions of being christian while sending the first guy to hell for not knowing about him.... i wont finish that sentence because i am not here to be offensive.

This post was edited by ominkwon on May 23 2011 05:50am

omnikwon: As has already been stated, the requirements for salvation are just not leading an upright life. You cannot "earn" your way into heaven through good deeds. This is a common fallacy. What is good morals/values in one culture is often not in another, so you are taking a very Western approach to the issue, which again is incorrect.

Additionally, some people say that sin is not merely doing bad things, but doing anything (good or bad) that is not with God in mind, ie, something to fill a void in your own life. If you are helping the needy merely to make yourself feel better, then it is considered a sin. If you are doing so for the glory of God, then it is not. (This is just a quick summary)

The bible clearly states that you cannot be saved but through Christ, which contradicts "good morals/values" being the only requirement. Again, it is by God's standards you are judged, not yours, not mans.

It's also interesting that you mention the date of the bible, considering that it is much older than 2000 years old, and how relevant it actually is today. Reading the OT makes it clear that man has not fundamentally changed one bit since it was written. We like to think we're so sophisticated and advanced, but the reality is we are not.

God doesn't send people to hell, people choose to be there. For more understanding on that, you need to understand what hell actually is. There is a great passage in the bible that explains it quite well, check out Luke 16:19-31. In this parable, the rich man, even in his death is trying to use Abraham is a "lackey" or servant, still oblivious to things around him. Notice he doesn't plead to go to heaven here at all. The common "burning in hell" depiction is probably not overly accurate, but it's more of living out ones own desires that can never be fulfilled, perpetually into eternity. It seems people in hell don't even realize they are in hell at all, due to their own self-absorbed nature.