I'd like to put this topic to rest.

The basic problem is that we just don't know what God originally had intended for Satan. Deuteronomy 29:29 says, "The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law."

God does not answer all of our questions about Satan, but he does reveal that he is our enemy and that he doesn't want us to be saved. Let us be warned that Satan is going to try to destroy us and we should take heed to what the Bible does say about him.

Sin does not, I repeat, DOES NOT, have dominion over God. When you give your life to Jesus, you recieve the Holy Spirit. God is within you! The devil and his disciples MUST flee from you in the name of Jesus.
But do not get me wrong, you can still be tempted if you are walking in the flesh, not the spirit. If you are not saved, your spirit is unclean, and you are filled with sin. There are many facets to the bible and takes years of studying to knows Gods word front and back. I learn new stuff about God almost on a daily basis and I wish i knew more so I could offer more to you guys.

I think your right, yesterday after posting, I actually did not want to know anymore. But this post keeps evolving and other issues are being touched and i think they should be talked about.

I argue only to teach Christians what they already claim to believe.

A Christian still faces the same temptations as a nonbeliever or unsaved person does.

In helping Christians deal with their troubles, Paul repeatedly reminds them that what they were experiencing was not unique. He tells the suffering Philippians that they were going through "the same conflict" which they had seen in him (Philippians 1:29-30). He tells the Thessalonians that they had "suffered the same things from your own countrymen, just as they did from the Judeans" (I Thessalonians 2:14). He tells the Corinthians that they were "enduring the same sufferings which we also suffer" (II Corinthians 1:6).

If others have experienced your trials and temptations and made it through, so can you. This is the point in 1 Corinthians 10:13 where Paul writes, "No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it."

yes i know
but walking in the spirit, not in the flesh, will help you overcome temptations.
learned that in church.

That is true. This is what 1 Corinthians 10:13 says.

But, what you said above, "you can still be tempted if you are walking in the flesh, not the spirit" was not true.

my bad u right i didnt mean 2 put that
i ment u can overcome temptation when walking in the spirit
thx for correcting me, i am only human!

where are the verses in the bible that actually say satan is:
a) an angel
b) an angel who was cast out of heaven specifically for rebelling against god

This post was edited by Kamikizzle on Mar 14 2011 11:41pm

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This post was edited by Kamikizzle on Mar 14 2011 11:41pm