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Mar 16 2011 06:12pm
Quote (TRADE_MASTER @ Mar 15 2011 10:57pm)
seeing as you make ignorant statements i can see that you have never read the Qur'an. the Qur'an directly confirms the bible and adds revelations from God.
i am speaking from an agnostic point of view. The christian holy bible states that the world was created approximately 3000 years ago. carbon dating can prove that there are MANY things that are MUCH older than 3000 years old. another process in which this has been disproven with is stratification and uniformitarianism in layers of the earth's crust.

another disproven fact in the bible is the earth flooding after 40 days and 40 nights of raining. If you took every drop of water from all bodies of water, clouds, ice caps, snow and air himidity, there is STILL not enough water to flood the earth, making the story of noah's arch false. the other thing is that you are probably reading an englih bible. the bible was not originally written in english... there are so many words lost in translation that even you should be able to see that an english bible is not the word of your god verbatim... if you pick up any 2 different versions of the bible in english and go to the same point in any story. you will see words being different.

sir your whole argument has fallen apart...


Lol just want to point this out that isn't even a christan story they stole it from the pagans XD. The story is written on runes for the norse. Lol just proving that this is a made up story... the norse need to collect on that copy right or even the pagans
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Mar 16 2011 10:40pm
i put my faith in jesus and god puts his blessing on me.

I dont know wats going on with other christians. Theres things like warped-reality in one's mind, betrayal, anger-management, greed(the kind that infects various parts of one's beliefs which translates into one's life).
Do u know who walks into those church doors, or just how many?

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Mar 16 2011 10:46pm
Quote (MCS @ Mar 7 2011 07:31am)
It's not hard to state things that can't be disproven.

For example in the center of the earth lives an invisible immortal man that spends all his time playing a pinball machine.


Non-believers don't have to disprove anything.  When you make claims the burden of proof is on you.

How would you like it if I said you killed Mr. Smith and you were sentenced to life in prison because you couldn't disprove it despite 0 evidence being presented against you.

I find it ironic that you use the term "fair trial" in this post.

I mean seriously I can apply this same logic to Harry Potter.  Can you disprove Harry Potter?


Very good point, i was thinking something very similar myself
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Mar 17 2011 03:54pm
Quote (Stealth @ Mar 7 2011 03:13am)
This is not to come off in any aggressive way.  Simply a challenge against yourself as if you were playing checkers.  So dont take this as me trying to forcefully impose Christianity upon you.

It says right in the Bible (not word for word obv) that if ONE SINGLE word in the entire Bible can be dis-proven then we are to disregard the entire thing. Even anti-christian legitimate scientists/professors/historians have stated that not one thing (so far) has been dis-proven.  The Bible is the only established religious text that this is true for and that is a fact. I am not stating this in any aggressive way (its hard to convey context over text), just check it out for yourself and maybe your world will be changed.   

now for the part where I rile up some people
Look at this as if you were a scientist or actually trying to seek an answer.  Keep an open mind in consideration. Briefly step outside  your current belief system just to take a look outside the box and explore this.  I am saying this because some people will just reply with their current beliefs.  This is not for that.  Simply look in to this and really explore this topic from an outside perspective (or as unbiasedly as possible). 
I am not asking you to throw away you belief system or say what you believe in is wrong in any way.  All I ask if that you explore this unbiasedly for the sake of a fair trial, if you will.
for a broad example: you may not believe that God created the Earth but it has not been certifiably dis-proven (nor proven to be fair).  Dont let this be a discussion about if this happened or not though please.


holy crap this sub-forum is pathetic
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Mar 21 2011 03:08am
which version are you talking about? why are there many versions in the first place if it's all true? why don't we still own slaves, beat children with rods, or tell women to submit or be punished? if people no longer practice these things that old-testy God stated was necessary, does that mean they have effectively been "disproved"?
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Mar 21 2011 03:13pm
well im not gonna prove to you because this is useless
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Mar 23 2011 02:37am
Doesn't the Bible say that an old man and his sons built an Ark that held two of every animal? It also held enough supplies to keep all these animals alive for 40 days. Correct me if im wrong but I believe the story of Noah's ark goes something like this and appears in the bible. All you need is a little common sense to realize this story is pretty silly and completely impossible.
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Mar 23 2011 05:31am
Quote (thenoose @ Mar 23 2011 03:37am)
Doesn't the Bible say that an old man and his sons built an Ark that held two of every animal? It also held enough supplies to keep all these animals alive for 40 days. Correct me if im wrong but I believe the story of Noah's ark goes something like this and appears in the bible. All you need is a little common sense to realize this story is pretty silly and completely impossible.


Then you wouldn't mind enlightening us as to why you think this is not possible? I would like to suggest reading the Bible to find your answer.
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Mar 23 2011 06:35am
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Mar 23 2011 07:31am)
Then you wouldn't mind enlightening us as to why you think this is not possible?  I would like to suggest reading the Bible to find your answer.

That's an easy one. The Ark is described to be 300 cubits long, 50 wide, and 30 tall. That translates to 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet tall. That's simply far too small to fit every species into.
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Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Mar 23 2011 07:31am)
Then you wouldn't mind enlightening us as to why you think this is not possible?  I would like to suggest reading the Bible to find your answer.


Could you also tell me how a man lived in a great fish without using the Bible as a source?
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