Haven't read through these pages at all, but you sound jewish. God is most definitely still apart of this world.
He works through us with. Look up the Pentacost.


This is wrong as well. There is the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Anglican Church which are neither catholic nor protestant. There are some others that don't come to mind at the moment.


You also said that life is a sin. Life is not a sin because if it was a sin it would not have been created by God, because God is incapable of causing/creating evil.

This post was edited by melodude on Dec 16 2010 11:22pm

a new face good

and no.. I am not jewish,, if anything then I am a protestant Christian, as this is what I grown up with and it is what I find to my liking, if anything,,, I am still in doubt about many things but I believe there is a god and that is all that matters for me atm,

but this is not something we should speak off


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as for the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Anglican Church

I cant say I heard much about them.. the word orthodox seems familier,,,

what I said/posted about protestant Christian is only a very short part of it, but is all true

I google Eastern Orthodox Church and the Anglican Church

eastern orthodox

seems very unlike of what I know and they seem to think/see thinks alot diffent which I good I would say, we cant agreed on anything and they seem to think othervice about the life being a sin

here is a something I found interesting

Sin, salvation and the incarnation
At some point in the beginnings of human existence man was faced with a choice, to learn the difference between good and evil through observation or through participation. The biblical story of Adam and Eve represents this choice by mankind to participate in evil. This event is commonly referred to as “the fall of man” and it represents a fundamental change in human nature. When Orthodox Christians refer to Original Sin what they mean is this adoption of evil into human nature. They reject the Augustinian position that the descendants of Adam and Eve are actually guilty of their sin.[25] As

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Church




Anglican Church
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism

did not know were to read anything there... it seems very weird for a Christian believe, quite alot of about history, prayers and church

something I might read more on later

Well to get rid of any confusion I meant that you sounded Jewish, as some Jews believe that God has left this world to itself, some even believe God to be dead.

Onto the Eastern Orthodox and Anglican churches.
The Eastern Orthodox church is just as old as the Roman Catholic church, as you probably know, the Roman Empire was basically 2 separate entities by the time Constantine became emperor. There was the Eastern Roman Empire and the Western Roman Empire. The West is where the Roman Catholic Church came out of and the East is where the eastern orthodox church came out of. The Eastern orthodox church was the main church during the Byzantine empire (which is the Roman Catholic church after the West fell in 479).

The Anglican church came about when King Henry VIII was king. King Henry wanted to have a son. His wive had only born him a daughter, so he beheaded her, the second also boar him a daughter, so he killed her. (he did this because the RCC said that divorce was a sin.) Eventually he decided he would just divorce his wives. (I'm not as familiar with this story as i would like to be honest so this might not all be completely accurate). He was at one point excommunicated by the Pope. He then started the Church of England or the Anglican church. At the time it was nearly identical to the RCC, except that divorce was allowed and the King was the Head of the church. The Anglican church is now closer to what the Roman Catholic church used to be then the Roman Catholic church itself.




Now on a completely different topic, you keep saying that the world is a sin. I am in complete disagreement with that.
God created the world.
God is omnipotent.
God being omnipotent is incapable of creating Evil, as he is omnipotent.
Therefore God could not have created the world if it was sinful.
Therefore you cannot say that the world is a sin.

Now there is a problem that evil does exist, and if God created everything and is omnipotent, how does this evil exist.
This is known as the problem of evil, which has been used to try and prove that God doesn't exist.
One possible explanation that I think makes sense is that evil is not in itself a thing, evil exists where there is no good.
It is like a hole in the ground. A hole is not a thing, a hole is just a place where there is no dirt.

Something Further, there are some things that even an omnipotent being is incapable of doing.
An omnipotent being is incapable of making a being that is free and is incapable of choosing evil, thus sin exists in the world.
An omnipotent being could not force a free being to do good, because then that being would no longer be free.
This is why God has to allow evil to be in the world.

without evil,,, what is good? what is right? rape and killing could be good,, if you did not know any better,, and that is a possible outcome in our world really,, balence is what makes our world go around, in the end, evil or good, whom ever wins
it is us and only you and I that made it that way, but our world is improving we are moving towards a world without silly wars


I believe that this is our world, ours to command,
do we wish destroy it, then it is very well in our hands to do so
or do we built it into something great

what happens when you die, now that is the real question of believe and faith, couse you dont know,

but what I like to think happens is,, well

I think we all suffer just a bit from our sins even the smallest onces like lust/greed the more non awoided things

while those whom choice to be really evil will suffer by more then anyone could ever believe,,,

sigh,,, evil makes me sad,, why we all just be happy for what we got,, and help each other,,

annoying,,,

This post was edited by haloneya on Dec 17 2010 03:43pm

Faith?

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np ^^

what a funny little guy

jesus forgives us for our sins while we are alive. if we do not do soemthing about all the sinning we are doing while wer alive jesus will be of no use to use after we die because you are suppose to change into a better human. thats wat i think.

The planet has some buildup of "sin" associated with it, that is a result to man's choices.

"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."

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On a minor note, the Anglican's are most assuredly a later result of the Reformation.

ofc you will be forgiven while alive,, never said anything about that

so I agreed on this

interesting,, not sure I understand all of this,, seemed a bit random post,, but interesting

wages of sin is death vs life eternal in Him

the 2 trees in the beginning of Gen.

the planet was made and given to ppl

we were given dominion

Grab a Strong's and begin to seek.

Deuteronomy 30:19 (King James Version) I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Open book tests, with the answers already given are cool.

If you want a cliff note to more understanding...

Leviticus 17:14 (King James Version) For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.

Now that is worth at least a lifetime or seven of meditation!

Out for a week.