Quote (Dune1 @ Jul 27 2012 09:38am)
The reason he had to be born through a virgin is because it was prophesied. We are not born sinners, we are born with a nature to sin.
Arbitrary colors to clarify and I apologize for the wait in reply.
This is actually, pretty much my point. Going with the choices define by the trees in the garden of Eden, we have Live (Koine: zoe) and Knowledge (layman's: both good and evil). People are born into the last one and stuck there, I agree.This means you are in fact on spot here as well. The problem is, if your up one of two trees, you can't fly over to another one with out wings, you are bound to start exploring the tree you are on. You are are 100% correct on this statement from man's perspective on this. Prophesy is just God giving man a glimpse into the future of what He has already done because we are the one naturally bound by what we call time.
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Jul 28 2012 08:27am)
I agree that all have sinned or will sin if they live long enough to know right from wrong. That is why babies are not born with sin. Sin is transgression of the law, or breaking the law. How does a baby transgress when it cannot comprehend right from wrong?
You have been around quite a while and I will attempt to break this down into a chunk you may find helpful.
It isn't as much about finding the best argument for a case.
It is more about making the decision to try to go find the cool Jesus person these "crazy nuts", as you probably think
keep talking about.
The reason He can never be proven is because anyone can find a reason that any relationship is not 100% beneficial to what anyone thinks is important to them! Because subconsciously "I know what's best for me!!"
When you were in kindergarten and someone came up to make a sandcastle with you in the sandbox, did you question them for 10 years or just see if they were cool enough to hang out with and build something?