Quote (HighschoolTurd @ Nov 9 2011 08:36pm)

You cannot judge me, and tell me that because of me commiting sexual sin doesn't relate to me not talking to girls.  I don't feel "alpha" when I am with girls, that is not true at all, I simply feel really nervous around them, and FOR ME, (and others I know).  When I am with girls, I put them on the pedostool before me (ALWAYS) so you saying that I feel alpha is absolutely not true at all. 


I think you should have a look here:
Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.
(1 Corinthians 6:18)

Sexual sin is against his own body, that means spiritual and physically and emotionally, I believe 100% that because of my sexual sin I have been doing in the past , is my result for not having a relationship with a girl and my social problems outside of the internet.  That is something I have to live for with the rest of my life, unless I repent and stop now (Which I am doing my best) so I don't really need you to make assumptions about me either saying "Good luck in your efforts", when I know god is in my heart all the time, wherever I go, and whatever I should live as he is next to me standing watching over me.

I disagree with your natural for us to be tempted, when I became a born again christian, my views on that completely changed and my perspective on life, therefore the sexual sin was very minimal, now not only me, but others, have problems with internet/girls at school/ people who they hang out, (Put women down all the time) and makes you feel like the girls are the b-word, that's really how the mainstream music media portrays womens nowadays, it's sickening, and I stay and tread FAR FROM IT.

It's natural in a sense (your attractive to females) but it's not NATURAL To commit (SEXUAL) sin... why don't you understand that?

Quote (evilnemesis @ 9 Nov 2011 18:09)

@ Bold I am not judging you, I am saying, that it's probable ( not impossible ) that the problems are not due to your sexual sins. You may disagree, but others did sin like yourself, and are still able to have a healthy relationship with a woman. That's what I meant by correlation does not imply causation. You ask me to not assume  things, but do so yourself, hypocrite.

I wasn't assuming at all you've admit yourself that you did sin, but you wish to better yourself, and become closer to god, why would I not wish you luck ?

It's irrelevant that god is with you at all time, you have free will, ultimately you will make the choices, he can only try to support you with his love, and hope you love him back just as he does.


I also never said it was natural to commit sexual sin ( another assumption I guess ? )

I said that it was natural that you were tempted.


This is like a person which is homosexual, but does not engage in homosexual acts.

It is totally different, one acted upon his urges, one does not.


Also about the "alpha" thing it was more directed towards other animals, humans are much more complex and the criteria for pairing are way more  than a little boost of manliness via hormones.

Quote (HighschoolTurd @ Nov 9 2011 09:19pm)

You just got done telling me that we were related to animals, now you saying "humans are so much more complex"/etc you're contradicting yourself in so many ways man It's really in descending to me and my friend (who is a christian) that are reading your post.

"It's irrelevant that god is with you at all time, you have free will, ultimately you will make the choices, he can only try to support you with his love, and hope you love him back just as he does."

False, it's 100% relevant that god is with me w/o HIM I would have no motivation for life or anything, I need him to be with me wherever I go and whatever I Do, how do you have the audacity to say that having god in my life ( as a christian ) is irrelevant? You're right.. ultimately I will have to make the choices, but you're contradicting yourself again, because I try my best to make choices based on what god Thinks what I should do, not myself (hard to explain).  also I am not a hypocrite, I am not assuming anything, I am giving my opinion and beliefs, that does NOT equal a hypocrite, I got suspended before for calling somone that, (Why I had to reply to you saying I am one) which is not true.

Quote (evilnemesis @ 9 Nov 2011 18:38)

Basically to put it bluntly what I'm saying is that you should acquire better reading comprehension.

Quote (chemoshots @ Nov 8 2011 07:36pm)

Why would I watch the whole video after he loses me 2 minutes in? That's his fault for putting together shoddy material, not mine as a viewer. If it gets better, he should probably open with that material. That was my point.

Also, I never said he didn't know what he was talking about, but I'm glad my imaginary comment flattered you!

In case you still haven't gathered my point, with a subject like this, strength of message is inconsequential if presentation is shit. I'm trying to be helpful and point out that you are doing the message a disservice by trying to propagate it with shitty material.

F***sake, I support your message. Just because I disagree with the crap you're using to sell it doesn't mean we are at opposition.

Quote (HighschoolTurd @ Nov 9 2011 08:40pm)

Apply better reading comprehension? really?

Wow, im done with this thread Good discussion though.

Quote (Khaos_jsp @ 12 Nov 2011 13:42)

Also love the discussions going on here. Thanks for posting this vid , it was very helpful to me. I'm also trying to quit falling to lust.

Quote (evilnemesis @ Nov 9 2011 07:19pm)

@ Bold, this argument makes little to no sense, regardless of which animal, desires are still there. You may say it is a sin and the devil is tempting you, but it is ESPECIALLY natural for us to be tempted, because, unlike other animals we have free will, and he tries to make us fall with him. Obviously from a Christian stand point, they ask for abstinence and resistance, but we are merely human, and are all sinners. Good luck in your efforts though .

@ Italic I'm not surprised, nature does things well, it only make sense that you get an elevated amount of testosterone to show dem females who's alpha. But the last part is not true, correlation does not imply causation. You having no confidence talking to girls it's not closely related to your sexual sins at all.