An objection is something somebody says against a claim somebody holds. It happens in court all the time. Perhaps you have seen some Law and Order?

An individual will say something like, "I believe in Jesus." Another might objection (with an objection) and say "But how can you believe in Jesus when his life is rooted in pagan myths?" I hope this helps.

By the way, that is precisely why I posted here Torm1. Thanks for saying that!

God cannot exist because there is too much pain and suffering in the world.

If you look around, you'll see many of good christians suffer great things.
And if you look around again, you'll see many good things happen to such bad people.
Why?

You often pray to God this; God, Why did you let this happen to me.. Why!

So the answer is.. God gives you suffering and pain so that you will hold on to him more and more.
He is training you to only look to him during troubles and harships. If God gave you everything you ever
desired, you wont look to him once you achieve the desired things.

Before asking God "Why?'
Let God ask you, "Do you trust me?"

Thats the real question. And once you say yes to that qeustion, nothing else matters.

Amen

You don't see clearly to tell you the truth really your to blind to see that you have christianity water downed and do not yet fully understand it so therefore you make assumptions and non-valid unresarched points due to the lack of knowledge. Jesus is the messiah not merely a miracle worker, but a covenant to us gentiles that gives us a chance to enter the kingdom of heaven. You say God cannot exist because there is to much pain and suffering. If everything was perfect why would we see a need for god? As Jesus said he came here for the sick not the healthy. The reason why there is emotional pain and suffering is due to our sin. Our sin brings upon foolishness not righteousness. I know people have diseases. people pass away, and disasters happen. That should build you up as a person to do better not act a fool. You say the bible has errors.... The bible taught us how to build a boat, and we were still trying to find out how to build a boat. the bible told us about under water springs, and we just found about that in the 60's. The bible talked about nations that archeologists are beginning to uncover now. By the way mankind has tried to prove that theory many times that someone could of change the documents in the bible, but yet they found the dead sea scrolls. 99.99% of everything in the bible written down was word for word as in the scrolls. Their was only a couple spelling errors. This says a lot about this book that was made 2000 years after christ. A true christian shouldn't be intolerant over abortion and homosexuality, but yet not acceptant of it. That's sin that you presented yourself, and I do not judge others for mistakes. I make mistakes myself nobodies perfect, but it's up to you to want to do better for God. The reason why I say do better for God rather than changing is due to the fact God just wants a relationship with us. Once we get connected God not only as a body ( the church ) but emotionally and soon you'll physically want to do better and change becomes automatic without thought to it. Now you say there are hundreds of religions in the world. Yes I agree, but who's God is holy; Not theirs. My God sets himself apart from the world and as a christian I must do the same. Your parties may contain drinking, getting high, and etc. I know when my body throws a party we know how to have a good time sober, and not just remain clickish in our little groups but be inviting and encouraging to our neighbors so that God's kingdom may expand. I'm not saying you wont have clicks, because everyone has clicks emotionally, but thats why you set apart time to just chill and talk to build eachother up on an emotional level to get stronger within your faith that also creates disciples along the road. So who are you to say Christianity claims that their the only truth in the world. God is the truth, and Jesus's death is the evidence. Now let me tell you what God wants. God wants a relationship with you and not a weak relationship either. The kind of relation that a close father and son have. The only way to do that is to get in the word which is the bible, and to speak with him. That is done through prayer. So in my opinion your points are intolerable and is spoken from the lips of a fool, and only taken in logical by people who live in distorted human fantasies.



by the way in the bible it never says anything about an apple fyi

This post was edited by Jkdd on Jul 17 2011 11:58pm

He would have no idea If it did or didn't, He just copied and pasted what every atheist posts when they have nothing else to say to try and get a laugh or two.

could anyone help me, i totally want to believe there is a higher power somewhere, but i absolutely can't stand the church, i think it's a HUGE sham/scam, all their rules and regulations regarding life, which imo they shouldn't be allowed to control... but for some reason i feel i want to believe in god, not to go to heaven, i could care less where i go when i die. not scared of that one bit. And if i do convert, does that mean i can't listen to my semi-satanic music??? so much that is taboo being a christian...

This post was edited by turtol on Jul 18 2011 02:53am

There is a big difference between believing because you have to or are told to rather than believing because you WANT to. All the Church's regulations regarding life; they didn't just pull some laws out of their ass. They are there because the bible teaches us how to live a life that pleases God. The only thing that truly matters is pleasing God. It doesn't matter how many people you please.

I know a book that would scare you into believing as it describes what Hell is like but if I do that then that wouldn't be a faith or relationship based on love.

i honestly don't care where i go after death, i just have a problem with the church, but i truly wanna believe in god, i want to feel like i have a purpose just to belong for once....