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#31
Apr 2 2011 02:00am
Quote (sirfrozt @ Apr 2 2011 07:51am)
if HE regretted making humans then as an omnipotent god i dont see how it would be all that much trouble to just end that problem and make it to where it never happened. therefore i believe he is 100% ok with making us. i remember hearing somewhere that god doesnt make mistakes so if there was no mistake then thered be nothing to regret. winning logic imho.


Hes omniscient so he wouldn't have to "end that problem" he would just know he would regret it and not do it.
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Apr 2 2011 02:02am
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Hey, they were all given the chance to believe in God. You, yourself may have a plan to convert at the age of 92. However, you could go out at the age of 23 and get drunk and decide to get behind the wheel. You have a car crash and die at the age of 23. At the beginning of that day you didn't plan to die. That is why you should believe in him and turn away from your sinful ways...NOW!

I go out in an hour, I don't know if I'll die on the way there or not. If I do at least I'll know that I have already accepted Jesus into my life. Turn to the Lord and you will be saved!


there is a problem with this. just because someone is presented with a choice and doesnt choose to believe does not always mean that the person is a bad person or that they should burn in hell. your comment is the same shit ive always gotten on christianity, BELIEVE OR BURN!!! this is bullshit. you cannot tell someone to believe you or they will have terrible consequences when they die just to get them to believe you. i once asked a minister if people in random tribes in africa or the amazon would go to hell if they didnt believe in god when no one had even told them about him and he said yes because everyone gets a chance to learn about him. i then asked well what if the missionary wasnt very convincing and he told me yes again that they would go to hell. i do not believe this. you cant do a card trick then tell me im going to catch on fire when i die if i dont believe you did it by magic, you need convincing proof thereof.

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Hes omniscient so he wouldn't have to "end that problem" he would just know he would regret it and not do it.


you make no sense. he makes no mistakes so we cannot be a mistake. regrets means mistake plain and simple. what he does he can undo so no regrets.

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#33
Apr 2 2011 02:27am
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you make no sense. he makes no mistakes so we cannot be a mistake. regrets means mistake plain and simple. what he does he can undo so no regrets.


You seem to really lack the ability to read.

If I know stabbing myself in the hand is going to hurt do I stab myself in the hand then stitch it up or do I not stab myself in the hand....

I'm saying why would he create humans in the first place knowing he'll regret it. He doesn't have to "undo" anything.

Stay in school kid.
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Apr 2 2011 02:20pm
Quote (sirfrozt @ Apr 1 2011 11:51pm)
if HE regretted making humans then as an omnipotent god i dont see how it would be all that much trouble to just end that problem and make it to where it never happened. therefore i believe he is 100% ok with making us. i remember hearing somewhere that god doesnt make mistakes so if there was no mistake then thered be nothing to regret. winning logic imho.



Quote (MCS @ Apr 2 2011 12:27am)
You seem to really lack the ability to read.

If I know stabbing myself in the hand is going to hurt do I stab myself in the hand then stitch it up or do I not stab myself in the hand....

I'm saying why would he create humans in the first place knowing he'll regret it.  He doesn't have to "undo" anything.

Stay in school kid.


you guys are both saying the same thing. at least one thing is the same. god KNEW what would happen with his creations before he made them.

namely (if christians are correct) that 90% of them would be spending eternity rotting in hell

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Apr 2 2011 03:23pm
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you guys are both saying the same thing. at least one thing is the same. god KNEW what would happen with his creations before he made them.

namely (if christians are correct) that 90% of them would be spending eternity rotting in hell


I'm aware of that, he isn't.

Hence me telling him he can't read.
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Apr 2 2011 05:54pm
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you guys are both saying the same thing. at least one thing is the same. god KNEW what would happen with his creations before he made them.

namely (if christians are correct) that 90% of them would be spending eternity rotting in hell


99% of people are ashamed of Christ.

And you know what Jesus said about those who are ashamed of Him.
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Apr 2 2011 07:03pm
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99% of people are ashamed of Christ.

And you know what Jesus said about those who are ashamed of Him.


Lets all make up statistics.
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#38
Apr 2 2011 07:43pm
Actually its less that 1% of the world's population that will be saved at the end of the age in my opinion.
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Apr 2 2011 08:44pm
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Actually its less that 1% of the world's population that will be saved at the end of the age in my opinion.


The thing is, statistics have nothing to do with your or anyones opinion.........

Hence lets all make up statistics.
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#40
Apr 2 2011 08:50pm
logic this thread has none
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