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Mar 14 2011 11:22pm
Quote (cadizzle1392 @ Mar 14 2011 10:19pm)
The reason why i believe the womans book is true. Because throughout the book she is pleading with the reader, if not saved, to get saved as soon as possible, and even how to get saved. The book even includes a sinners prayer so that u can accept Jesus into your heart. It also speaks about repentence and talks about some sins that would cause you to go to hell for ex. homosexuality. And goes to talk about how God intended man for woman and woman for man. I believe this book is not for monetary gain whatsoever. The enemy would never speak about how to give your life to Jesus, for he would want you to decieve you and make you think you do not need him.


This is true and accurate.

Jesus is going to save you when He comes back to this planet and sends them out to harvest up the humans my friend.

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The reason why i believe the womans book is true. Because throughout the book she is pleading with the reader, if not saved, to get saved as soon as possible, and even how to get saved. The book even includes a sinners prayer so that u can accept Jesus into your heart. It also speaks about repentence and talks about some sins that would cause you to go to hell for ex. homosexuality. And goes to talk about how God intended man for woman and woman for man. I believe this book is not for monetary gain whatsoever. The enemy would never speak about how to give your life to Jesus, for he would want you to decieve you and make you think you do not need him.


You assume that either it's true or it's influenced by satan.

It doesn't have to be either.

A far more likely explanation than this woman was chosen to be the only person EVER to be taken on a guided tour of hell by Jesus is that this book is the work of either a delusional or fame/money driven mind.

Both of these account for all the things that make you think this book is true.

A delusional Christian might truly believe she had gone to hell and seen all these things. She would surely want to save as many people as possible. None of this would change the fact that shes batshit crazy. A money/fame driven person would want to write the most accurate book possible to convince people like you that it's real. Only selling the book would be an instant indicator that shes full of shit. A far better way to make money/get famous is to give people the option to pay for the book while giving it away for free to dispel the belief that shes just after money. Christians love giving their money away. She probably makes more money in donations than actual book sales.

You're choosing to believe the LEAST LIKELY option with no proof at all.

I really doubt you'll remain a christian your whole life Cadizzle :\. Your religious beliefs seem to be based purely on ignorance.
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Mar 15 2011 12:01am
You know what. I realized, why am I wasting my time arguing. As this woman is clearly full of shit I'm sure plenty of other people have dedicated far more time into debunking her bullshit than I ever care to.

A simple google search turned up a ton of results like this:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/mary_k_baxter.htm

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Mar 15 2011 12:23am
It does bring Enoch to mind.

Enoch had a tour of the heavens (space) and also got to see the place which Jesus referred to as "Outer Darkness"

Enoch also didn't taste of death on Earth, and at the age of 365, he was taken.
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Mar 15 2011 12:33am
I find that site to be very false. As i was reading through, i found many things that do not agree with my spirit. I believe this site itsself is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

In the first section they try to criticize her where she talked about Jesus scolding the woman about not obeying they. It goes to say "However, Jesus Himself said that Law of God wasn't intended to be obeyed... 'Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus' (Galatians 3:24-26)." This is an abomination. Before christ, you needed to live by law to make it to heaven. Jesus was sent to earth so we no longer had to live by law, but by grace.

In the second section, they are just going about picking at the general descriptions she stated about..ex. hell has fire, the worms dieth not, etc. They never say anything about any other vivid descriptions she made about her journey through hell.

In the third section, they try to say that you CANNOT fall from grace. Any TRUE christian right here would see this as a RED FLAG. For it is known that you can backslide, and fall from grace, even though you have been saved once before. This website tries to say that no matter what you do, you will be alright. Then it goes to cite scripture from the bible, tryng to back up what was just stated. So far this site is doing exactly what the serpent did to Adam in the beginning, twisting God's word to make it seem as if he ment this, and not that.

In the fourth section, it goes to say "First, you don't need to pray aloud to be saved, salvation is of the heart (Romans 10:10)". THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE BIGGEST LIE I HAVE EVER HEARD. IMA SHOW YOU HOW THE ENEMY WORKS TO DECEIVE YOU BY TWISTING GODS WORD GUYS, DO NOT BELIEVE THIS SITE. THIS IS WHAT ROMANS 10:10 REALLY SAYS: "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Romans 10:10

THIS SITE CONTINUES TO BASH MARY K BAXTER. GUYS PLZ I REPEAT, PLZ DO NOT LET THIS SITE FOOL YOU. I BEG OF YOU. DO NOT BELIEVE ITS LIES. THIS SITE IS NOT BEING RAN BY GOD OR ANY OF HIS DISCIPLES. THE BOOK MARY WROTE IS VERY REAL. IF YOU ARE STILL QUESTIONING IT, PLEASE SHOOT ME A PM I WILL BE GLADLY TO HAVE A TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THIS. AND MCS, I REBUKE THE EVIL SPIRIT IN YOU IN JESUS' NAME TRYING TO MISLEAD AND DECEIVE PEOPLE I WILL NOT LET SATAN GRAB AHOLD OF ANY LOST SOULS BY THE FOOLISHNESS THAT YOU POST. GUYS THAT SITE IS TRUELY A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING I CAN PUT IT UP AGAINST THE BIBLE.
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Mar 15 2011 12:44am
May the Lord of Shalom, reign in your heart. <3
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Mar 15 2011 12:46am
Calm down dude.

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Thoughts? This entire book is her interpretation of things not the word of God.
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It is not her interpretation of "things", the stuff she writes is what she actually saw, felt, tasted, smell, and heard. This is not some book about the interpretation of God's word. It is a book about a woman's whose calling was to record all the sensual information she absorbed while having multiple trips through hell and heaven with Jesus.

And in the last post i was not yelling, I was just making the important stuff unmissable. That site you posted has much false information on it. And MCS i have nothing against you because as a saved Christian, i know it is nothing but
an evil spirit expressing itself through u and I hope that you turn to God before it is too late!
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It is not her interpretation of "things", the stuff she writes is what she actually saw, felt, tasted, smell, and heard. This is not some book about the interpretation of God's word. It is a book about a woman's whose calling was to record all the sensual information she absorbed while having multiple trips through hell and heaven with Jesus.

And in the last post i was not yelling, I was just making the important stuff unmissable. That site you posted has much false information on it. And MCS i have nothing against you because as a saved Christian, i know it is nothing but
an evil spirit expressing itself through u and I hope that you turn to God before it is too late!


Thats what an interpretation is she saw felt tasted smelled and heard things then wrote them down over a lengthy period of time. It's not the word of god it's the word of Mary K Baxter.

I didn't even fully read that site and I certainly didn't fact check it like I said there were several. I posted it because I was trying to avoid arguing with someone who chooses to believe the least likely scenario.

Do you believe every time some nutjob claims God literally visited them if what they're saying doesn't go against the Bible?
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