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Mar 15 2011 09:46pm
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[B]its more than trying to stop sinning. James is very clear about sin, and the consequences of sin as well as Paul was when we wrote Romans. 2 Corinthians 5:17 "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" What Paul is saying here is that when you accept Christ into your life, there is an inner change, and a visible change in the person. Essentially, we are a new person. Things of the past should fade away, and Christ should be the new center of our lives, thus, we base everything we do around Christ. The thing is, if we as believers continue to fall into the same sin over and over, and there is no real conviction for what we continue to do, we need to examine ourselves, and examine our salvation, because it may not even be there. Obviously, we were born into sin, we take in sin daily, even after repentance, we are just so consumed by sin that there is no running from it. What i am saying though, is that if we continue to sin and there is no conviction, salvation was never there.


nicely stated.
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I also want to say that i dissagree with you kiss, the flesh is sin. A baby that is born into this world is born into sin. The baby does not have any knowledge of what is sin or not sin. That is why babies and children would automatically go to heaven if something were to happen to them. I believe there is something of the bible that talks about i just dont kno where.
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nicely stated.
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I also want to say that i dissagree with you kiss, the flesh is sin. A baby that is born into this world is born into sin. The baby does not have any knowledge of what is sin or not sin. That is why babies and children would automatically go to heaven if something were to happen to them. I believe there is something of the bible that talks about i just dont kno where.


its not tought in the bible

also saying the flesh is sin is also saying god created sin, choose your words more carefuly please
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it is tought in the bible. and yes the flesh is sin. this is why the bible stresses to walk in the spirit, not in the flesh.

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its not tought in the bible

also saying the flesh is sin is also saying god created sin, choose your words more carefuly please


God created everything, sin included. It's in the bible.

Also how do neither of you know how to spell taught?

Less time in church more time in school then more time in church so you can know the bible because you don't apparently.
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it is tought in the bible. and yes the flesh is sin. this is why the bible stresses to walk in the spirit, not in the flesh.


No, seriously. I CAN SEND YOU A FREAKING BIBLE IF YOU WANT.
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Quote (cadizzle1392 @ Mar 15 2011 10:46pm)
nicely stated.
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I also want to say that i dissagree with you kiss, the flesh is sin. A baby that is born into this world is born into sin. The baby does not have any knowledge of what is sin or not sin. That is why babies and children would automatically go to heaven if something were to happen to them. I believe there is something of the bible that talks about i just dont kno where.


If a baby is born into sin how can the baby enter heaven when God will not allow sin in heaven? It clearly contradicts God's word.

The idea that children are born sinful is a myth. A child begins life in this world in purity and innocence. When children are small, they have no knowledge of good or evil (Deuteronomy 1:39). A child must grow up in order to know to refuse evil and chose good (Isaiah 7:15-16). This is why Jesus said the kingdom of heaven (another description of the church) is composed of people who are similar to little children (Mark 10:14). We have to become like children to enter the kingdom (Matthew 18:3). To enter the church, we must be cleansed of our sins, just as little children are without sin. I'm not sure why this is hard for you to understand.

People are punished for their own sins (Colossians 3:25). God does not chose who is punished for sin or rewarded for righteous by individual. Rather, the actions of each individual determines whether they will be punished or rewarded. God set the standards. Our actions are measured against this standard. The decision is on man's part. God remains an impartial judge.


MCS, can you show us where God created sin?
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God created everything, sin included. It's in the bible.

Also how do neither of you know how to spell taught?

Less time in church more time in school then more time in church so you can know the bible because you don't apparently.


He created all things that are GOOD and also not everything is created, like god for example or good and sin

sin is unrighteousness or to go against god's word

Also you say we dont know how to type taught?

I typed tought out of habit, you think we would not know how to type taught considering its been posted on these forums and its all over the internet?

you jump to conclusions alot =/

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MCS, can you show us where God created sin?


Colossians 1:16

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for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can't see--such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him.


Note the encompassing nature of the word "everything". Everything does not mean everything except some things. Everything means everything.


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He created all things that are GOOD and also not everything is created, like god for example or good and sin

sin is unrighteousness or to go against god's word

Also you say we dont know how to type taught?

I typed tought out of habit, you think we would not know how to type taught considering its been posted on these forums and its all over the internet?

you jump to conclusions alot =/

Why would you have a habit of misspelling simple words? I didn't say you don't know how to type it I said you don't know how to spell it.


Why are you adding words to the bible that aren't in it? Did you not like it the way it was so you just decided to change it for the sake of your argument? Does your bible have pages ripped out and words crossed out and rewritten?
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Colossians 1:16



Note the encompassing nature of the word "everything". Everything does not mean everything except some things. Everything means everything.



Why would you have a habit of misspelling simple words? I didn't say you don't know how to type it I said you don't know how to spell it.


Why are you adding words to the bible that aren't in it? Did you not like it the way it was so you just decided to change it for the sake of your argument? Does your bible have pages ripped out and words crossed out and rewritten?


oh I know how to spell taught but like I said I have a habit to switch ou and au, but thanks for jumping to conclusions

and also where am i adding words to the bible? lol
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oh I know how to spell taught but like I said I have a habit to switch ou and au, but thanks for jumping to conclusions

and also where am i adding words to the bible? lol


When I see someone get on a bike try to ride then fall over I form the conclusion that they don't know how to ride a bike.

When I see someone jump in a lake and start drowning I form the conclusion that they can't swim.

When I see someone try to spell the word taught and misspell it I form the conclusion that they don't know how to spell taught.

If you don't want people forming incorrect conclusions about you then don't make yourself out to be an idiot.

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He created all things that are GOOD

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for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth.


Notice the lack of the word "good" in the 2nd quote. That's because it isn't there.
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