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Mar 6 2011 01:38am
Neither. Its just true,

Its also true that it would be just like the days of Noah...

No one believes Jesus, but when it all comes to pass, they will see.

Get ready for the coming months of 2011.
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Mar 6 2011 01:49am
Quote (Torm1 @ Mar 6 2011 07:38am)
Neither. Its just true,

Its also true that it would be just like the days of Noah...

No one believes Jesus, but when it all comes to pass, they will see.

Get ready for the coming months of 2011.


Theres no harm in seeing a psychiatrist.

I'm not suggesting this because you're a Christian I'm suggesting it because you see doomsday signs in everything you look at.

It's seriously disturbing and unhealthy.
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So unsaved children can die and murderers can go on to kill unsaved people and thats okay with God? Thats cool I guess. All children before the age of accountability will be saved.  If you are truely interested in this you should study the bible.  I recommend the KJV or NKJV.

It might not have been related to the OP but it was related to what I was quoting.

If god foresaw it then how can his mind he changed? Forsaw what?



Most rapists and murders get caught. You have to be deeply disturbed to rape and/or murder someone. I doubt many rapists get away with it and live happy lives.

I'm sure there are some though yes.


Why do you ask?


God gives man free will. If a rapist or murderer choose to do so he is inflicted with sin and the devil. Peoples choices in life affects other people also. I don't have all the answers, I don't know why things are the way they are. If someone broke into my house tonight and killed my family and cut off my arms but I lived I would not know why it was Gods will that it happened. I would have to assume God knows best, trust in him, never loose faith and I should leave it in his hands. Read about Job in the Old Testament.
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Mar 6 2011 02:42am
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God gives man free will.  If a rapist or murderer choose to do so he is inflicted with sin and the devil.  Peoples choices in life affects other people also.  I don't have all the answers, I don't know why things are the way they are.  If someone broke into my house tonight and killed my family and cut off my arms but I lived I would not know why it was Gods will that it happened.  I would have to assume God knows best, trust in him, never loose faith and I should leave it in his hands.  Read about Job in the Old Testament.


Foresaw anything.........?

You're saying praying can change his will.

Lets say I'm praying for a sick person to get better. If I don't pray then they die?



When is the age of accountability?
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Mar 6 2011 04:13am
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God can change His mind? That doesn't really make sense to me.


Oh the Lord does change his mind in the book Exodus.

Exodus 32: 9 - 14

"And again the Lord said to Moses: I see that this people is stiffnecked: 10 Let me alone, that my wrath may be kindled against them, and that I may destroy them, and I will make of you a great nation. 11 But Moses besought the Lord his God, saying: Why, O Lord, is your indignation enkindled against your people, whom you have brought out of the land of Egypt, with great power, and with a mighty hand? 12 Let not the Egyptians say, I beseech you: He craftily brought them out, that he might kill them in the mountains, and destroy them from the earth: let your anger cease, and be appeased upon the wickedness of your people. 13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, your servants, to whom you swore by your own self, saying: I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven: and this whole land that I have spoken of, I will give to your seed, and you shall possess it for ever: 14 And the Lord was appeased from doing the evil which he had spoken against his people."

Now just because you know that something bad is going to happen, when it does happen wouldn't you still be upset over that? Moses could see how God was upset that the people he saved made themselves an idol.

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Foresaw anything.........?

You're saying praying can change his will.

Lets say I'm praying for a sick person to get better.  If I don't pray then they die?



When is the age of accountability?


When Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane he was praying to God to take the cup away because he knew what was about to happen to him. He prayed by GOD'S will and not by his own will. If it is God's will for something to happen then it will happen. You got to look at the reason why you are praying for something. Are you praying for a sick person to get better for your own will or are you doing it by God's will?
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Foresaw anything.........? God is omniscient

You're saying praying can change his will. Yes, CPK001 has already pointed out one verse, also read Amos 7:5-6 and Jonah 3:8-10

Lets say I'm praying for a sick person to get better. If I don't pray then they die? Again, as CPK001 has pointed out, you pray it's God's Will be done, not yours.  However you make your petitiion to God tellign him your wishes.



When is the age of accountability?


The only time in a person’s life when he or she is spiritually alive in the absence of law is before he or she is a responsible, accountable adult. A person is not subject to the law of God until he or she is mature enough to understand and to be responsible for behavior. Here is the “age of accountability” to which so many have made reference over the years. This “age of accountability” is not pinpointed in Scripture as a specific age and for obvious reasons: it naturally differs from person to person since it depends upon a variety of social and environmental factors. Children mature at different rates and ages as their spirits are fashioned, shaped, and molded by parents, teachers, and life’s experiences.
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Mar 6 2011 04:20pm
How can you change someones will without presenting them with any new information?


So if I murder my child at birth it goes to heaven?
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How can you change someones will without presenting them with any new information?


So if I murder my child at birth it goes to heaven?


Why even consider such things, even if as an example?
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Why even consider such things, even if as an example?


Is that a yes?
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Mar 6 2011 04:38pm
How am I supposed to know? Thats up to God. Obviously to you it wouldn't if you don't believe in Heaven.

Are you getting to the point that many babies are aborted even at 9 months (Legally)?
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