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Oct 28 2010 01:58pm
I would say all sins are forgiveable. Just because that doesn't agree with your beliefs doesn't make it wrong.
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Oct 28 2010 02:03pm
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I would say all sins are forgiveable. Just because that doesn't agree with your beliefs doesn't make it wrong.


You just can't reject Jesus as Lord of the universe. You also need to believe that He can't be in contact with sinners (in heaven) unless they ask Him for forgiveness.

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Oct 28 2010 02:12pm
Quote (ZeroCc @ Oct 28 2010 02:58pm)
I would say all sins are forgiveable. Just because that doesn't agree with your beliefs doesn't make it wrong.


I also believe all sins are forgivable, but what about the people who don't repent and seek forgiveness for their sins?

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You just can't reject Jesus as Lord of the universe. You also need to believe that He can't be in contact with sinners (in heaven) unless they ask Him for forgiveness.


Piggybacking off of this a little bit - God is completely perfect, holy, sinless, and so on. In order to ever be in his presence, we must be made righteous. The perfect sacrifice is Jesus Christ, who gave his life for our sins. If we do not repent for our sins, Jesus' sacrifice will not make us right in front of God. If we are not right in front of God, we can not be in his presence in heaven. Thus, those who are not rightwised go to Hell.

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Oct 28 2010 08:09pm
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Because Heaven and Hell are referenced in hundreds of other areas in the Bible?



Do you not know what theology is? It's the study of the God and his word. There are hundreds of different interpretations of the Bible which equates to many different denominations. It's not that we don't believe in it - we just have varying beliefs in what the text means, who it was intended for, and so on.

The way you translate the Bible is that it is just a crock of crap. Because of that, and the fact that you don't even respect it in the least but attack it relentlessly, means you really have no right to argue about it. And I lol at you saying you're done with my false Christianity - you never even gave it a chance. If you actually knew God or anything about Christianity, you would know that Jesus died for all sins.

For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit . . . (NASB) 1 Peter 3:18

It doesn't say that Christ died for sins once for all, EXCEPT for blaspheming, so that He...


@ the bolded: OMFG THERE'S A CONTRADICTION IN THE BIBLE?!
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Oct 28 2010 09:37pm
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@ the bolded: OMFG THERE'S A CONTRADICTION IN THE BIBLE?!


I already explained that it wasn't. I guess you can't read.
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Oct 28 2010 10:33pm
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God forgives all sins.


This.


But that doesn't make suicide the right thing to do.

Please call a line in which you can help talk out your struggles to someone who will care. That is the better solution.
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Oct 31 2010 02:39am
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You just can't reject Jesus as Lord of the universe. You also need to believe that He can't be in contact with sinners (in heaven) unless they ask Him for forgiveness.


guess by your logic i'm going to hell then. being that i was one of the biggest athiests you'd ever have met and denied/rejected Jesus as often as i could. I spose that means anyone who claims another religion and then converts to christianity is then going to hell, being that its an unforgivable sin to reject Jesus. guess that means that anyone who has ever thaught that Jesus mite not be the savior of the world is going to hell, because believing it in your heart is as bad as doing it, and its an unforgiviable sin. funny, i think that covers every person on the face of the earth, so basicly, by your logic, were all going to hell.


/thread. get out of here with your unforgivable sin crap.
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Oct 31 2010 12:35pm
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guess by your logic i'm going to hell then. being that i was one of the biggest athiests you'd ever have met and denied/rejected Jesus as often as i could. I spose that means anyone who claims another religion and then converts to christianity is then going to hell, being that its an unforgivable sin to reject Jesus. guess that means that anyone who has ever thaught that Jesus mite not be the savior of the world is going to hell, because believing it in your heart is as bad as doing it, and its an unforgiviable sin. funny, i think that covers every person on the face of the earth, so basicly, by your logic, were all going to hell.


/thread. get out of here with your unforgivable sin crap.


It's not an unforgivable sin. It was at the time, but at the time it applied to believers of God who denied that Jesus was doing miracles because he was God. They attributed the miracles to a demon. They denied what was right in front of their eyes. It did not apply to non-believers, because there was no denial of something they already had - a belief in God.

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Oct 31 2010 04:18pm
I heard he was #1 svs last ladder but these days he's been off his game.

Imo he should dump those extra points from fade into clawblock.
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Oct 31 2010 06:27pm
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I already explained that it wasn't. I guess you can't read.


No, it is a contradiction if you don't sweep it under the rug. You're taking one verse in context when you don't take over verses in context.
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